Today’s weather forecast (Melbourne CBD, 3000): min - 16°C, max - 23°C. 25% chance of at least 1mm rain

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    If you live on floor 4 of an apartment building in the city and you’re currently cooking up something lemony/spicy/smoky/meaty, please invite me over for dinner. The smell entering the elevator when the doors opened on your floor was ambrosial.

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    Looks like Reservoir is affordable, easy to get to Brunswick and Coburg and to work.

    Will go have a look the next couple of days at a few places. Really wanted Brunswick but if I don’t get a pay rise that ain’t happening.

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      Beware of Fawkner & Dallas. They look close but the agents are likely putting lipstick on the pig’s butt hole.

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    Just for balance, is there anyone who’s not into sci-fi? What’s your preferred genre? I enjoy history, true crime or the occasional fiction.

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      I don’t particularly like sci-fi and I’m not much of a fantasy reader either. Or crime. I read a lot of contemporary fiction, literary fiction, some vintage domestic fiction, kids’ books, all sorts. Occasionally non-fiction.

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      I go through fads. I will read nearly any genre.

      Right now I’m reading a lot of non fiction biographies by explorers, archeology books and art history and art technique books. I’m listening to sci-fi and fantasy and science and history of philosophy books.

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    I am done for the day, sadly later than I’d hoped as I did not pick up the pace much in the afternoon. Now I must battle the tennis crowds to get out of here. So hungry. Might have a pizza tomorrow as a treat

    E: that’s gonna be a will have pizza tomorrow as a treat. Esp if it’s another long day like today - but hotter. Even though my pants are definitely tighter

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    Phrase you might not have heard in real life:

    “Walking around money”

    I love this phrase. Similar to “pocket money“

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      On first glance I thought it meant being tactful around those with different amounts of money to you

      It’s a cute phrase!

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      Maybe I’m weird, but I would’ve interpreted that as metaphorically walking, around money. Like passing up on a higher paying job, or not doing something dodgy for a bit of money

      E: actually, don’t answer. I already know I’m weird - nobody needs to confirm!

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    I tried tofu for the first time today. Honestly, I’m a pretty big fan. I didn’t try it in anything fancy, just a small fried rice. I wasn’t sure I was like it, but tbh I don’t think I would’ve noticed anything wrong if they told me it was a chicken fried rice

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      Yum. Tofu’s pretty versatile. My dinner tonight was a tofu stir fry with pre-cut stir fry veg from the supermarket and a bit of Hoisin sauce. Super quick, easy, tasty, and healthy.

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    5pm rave choon get it like blaaaow

    Gonna move a bit more mulch now… like blaaaow.

    Thankfully the soil / mulch sitch is drawing to a close. Starting to resent the shovel.

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    bankaust appears to have shat out o joyyyyy

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      Joy for the world, the banks are dead
      Let earth be rid of them
      The cost of living crisis
      Home and loans denied us
      To hell with finance bros
      To hell with finance bros

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        nooo bankaust are a good guy and also they have all my money. I kinda need them

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    super tired and have migraine, think I will have a lie down

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        Thank you.

        Headache is better but after some googling and reading of wiki I now have schizophrenia, apparently it’s insidious in women

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    Contract signed, deposit paid. Mad Kermit arms flailing!!!

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    Mickey is so tolerant. He was incessantly scratching one of his ears, as if something was in there. So I told him “I’m going to grab my phone for the torch, and I’ll have a look puss”.

    He trotted to the tiles in the kitchen and flopped on his side so his problem ear was facing up. I was able to have a look, and noticed one of his body hairs was stuck in there. He let me gently tweeze it out and he’s been so happy since.

    He is so fucking smart.

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    this headache is just about approaching “bail from work” levels, but I have a psych appointment after work so I cant go home to come back in. And there is a not 0 change the headache is due to stress so its pretty necessary.

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      My psych allows me to change to a telehealth appointment with 5 minutes notice if needed. If you think you can manage it, perhaps it might be worth checking if that’s an option?

      I’d Def’s be bailing on work though. Maybe an extra couple of hours lie in might help, even a tiny bit

      Fingers crossed you feel better soon though tiny!

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    Have spoken to more people today. They’re bailing. The director has set an all hands meeting for Tuesday, where she will no doubt tell everyone she’s leaving.

    Morale is non existent at the moment. Regardless of negotiations, im here till I move house. Then I’m out.

    Unless the interview i have Monday comes through. Then it’s worth living in the middle of nowhere for another 6 months.

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    I’m putting this under a NSFW, as it may be triggering for some of us. Concerns a situation that I’ve become aware of at work. I’m not sure I have all the details either. But there’s a moral dilemma here that I would welcome some feedback on.

    messy divorce case

    A really messy divorce case. Husband accused by wife of child abuse, which he denies. Kids (2 aged 6 & 9) have been examined by psychs and doctors and don’t show signs of abuse. Barring a claim by the elder child that Dad won’t let him have more than one fizzy drink per day. Both kids are scared shitless of their mum, who is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic who refuses to take medication. When in her custody, kids have twice taken themselves down to the Salvos begging for shelter overnight. Kids now in husband’s custody exclusively, and doing well in school.

    Wife has sprayed accusations of child abuse across several forms of social media targeting : 1) husband, 2) her dentist, 3) kids’ doctor, 4) her doctor, 5) two teachers at the kids’ school, 6) four of her neighbours. All ‘targets’ have been investigated by the police specialist unit, and all except one have been cleared of any such crimes.

    However, the dentist, doctors, and the teachers have all been sacked from their place of employment, and the dentist’s wife has been forcefully requested to resign from her tennis club and other social groups. And none were re-instated when the accusations turned out not to have any evidence supporting them.

    One neighbour is still under investigation, but the others have been cleared. I don’t know if there’s been any further effects on them.

    Given that several of the accused persons have suffered very real financial and social harm from accusations that may never be truly forgotten so long as the web exists. And they will be under suspicion for the rest of their lives and probably their families as well. Even though they’ve been cleared of wrongdoing.

    Question for the DT hive mind : should the wife (who is clearly a very damaged person) be sued for libel/damages for her accusations? Has she committed a crime here? Should she get some sort of penalty for making false accusations? Or should she get off scot free because she’s mentally ill and presumably not in full control of her actions?

    Yes I’ve muddied up some of the details for privacy reasons, but the basic dynamics are as accurate as I can make them.

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      Having experience with this, as some of you may know, yes she should be held accountable.

      Those accusations hurt my dad to the point he was drinking himself to death. He was able to pull himself out of it successfully. It also ruins the relationship between children and parent.

      While she may believe the accusations and truly thinks abuse happened, she needs to be institutionalised, and held accountable for her accusations. They are serious crimes to accuse someone of, and despite no evidence to suggest the accused did anything at al, it will still utterly ruin their lives. With the internet these days, even the innocent will have an extremely difficult time with their future jobs and relationships. They will be seen as untrustworthy at the very least.

      However, with all that said, there is a very real chance that none of that will help her. It’s still ultimately up to her to recognise her disordered thoughts and understand that she needs serious mental health help. Schizophrenia is insidious, especially in women, and just alters their reality to the point that it is almost impossible for outsiders (be it family or partners) to help, especially if it’s paranoid schizophrenia or religious-based (as is the case with my mum).

      I have sympathy for the woman, but it just isn’t right to go around accusing everyone of doing that heinous shite.

      I feel for the children and father in this, and the people who have lost their jobs because of this.

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      What a mess. I feel sorry for everyone involved in this story. I don’t know enough about the law to know if she has committed any crimes, under what laws? But if there’s a chance for the wrongly accused people to clear their reputations and get some compensation for their lives being disrupted then they should pursue it. The wife may not even understand she had done anything wrong and may not understand any penalties, and it certainly won’t cure her, so legal action probably wouldn’t have any affect on her thoughts or future behaviours. It’s purely for the benefit of the victims.

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      I don’t know what avenues are there but as someone who works in education, if I was ever accused of those things my career would be over and I would probably never get a job in the education sector ever again even if it was found everything was false as my reputation would be be in tatters within the community.

      That’s just my take on things and what has been reiterated to me if I was ever accused of sexual misconduct with a minor in my work environment whether it was true or not.

      If there was any action to take it would be loss of income, defamation issues and all future income from not being employable, I would pursue if there was a righteous case and damages to be won in compensation for not being employable.

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        This is why I do not like accusations in the media.

        It sets up a precedence of the public acting on accusation

        rather than belief in innocence before guilty and using the law courts to obtain justice.

        and abuse is serious, very serious, that’s why we need to treat accusations and victims seriously and with thought

        but there are still people who think Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard, even after she was found guilty of defamation.

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      This needs to be pursued. A public record of the falsity will be significant in preventing future damage caused by misconceptions. Probably don’t expect monetary recompense, she may be Judgement Proof in that regard, but the ruling is worth much more.

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      I agree with Catfish regarding public record. It’s a difficult situation, because this is probably one of the few accusations in life that can one can never truly wash off, as awful as it is.

      (I guess it’s up to the individual. I would probably want to if it were me, but I’d also want to weigh up the costs. Would it be worth it in the end after all that has already happened? Or would I just want to move on and put it all behind me?)

      How far do we split the moral hair, so to speak? Would she have done those things still if she was medicated? What level mental illness excuses harm (which I guess is what the law decides)? Is it possible the medication could have prevented this happening in the first place?

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      sued for libel/damages for her accusations?

      Yes!

      Has she committed a crime here?

      Thats for a court to decide

      Should she get some sort of penalty for making false accusations?

      In my opinion ABSOLUTELY! you can run about destroying peoples lives and get away with it. Illness or not.

      Or should she get off scot free because she’s mentally ill and presumably not in full control of her actions?

      Fuck no! I’m deeply sorry for her troubles, but those people shouldn’t suffer due to false accusations. its not about her suffering, its about the victims being about to point to a court verdict and say “I am not, nor was I EVER a child abuser”.

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        Absolutely this. While that illness can be difficult to manage and I have sympathy for her, the accusations would be life-changing and devastating for the people wrongfully accused

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          And while she may not be responsible for the disease, she is responsible for the impact it has on others. I cannot imagine the impact the accusations had on those individuals, and although there may not be a financial benefit I think I would want to push through to clear my name.

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      However, the dentist, doctors, and the teachers have all been sacked from their place of employment, and the dentist’s wife has been forcefully requested to resign from her tennis club and other social groups. And none were re-instated when the accusations turned out not to have any evidence supporting them.

      The employers should be sued.

      fuck the clubs,

      should the wife (who is clearly a very damaged person) be sued for libel/damages for her accusations?

      Yes. This will create a big paper trail so that any future victims of her slander have a defense. It might also force her to get treatment/committed

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        Yes that’s a good take, the employers need to be held accountable for unfair dismissals. Perhaps the affected people could investigate their rights through fair work Australia or one of those law firms that specialise in this kind of stuff.

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      Morally, I think she should be held accountable.

      Practically, I think the biggest consideration is actually how willing they would be to undertake the expense, effort and time involve in the legal process. Does she have much in the way of cash/assets to even pursue? Would a win actually reinstate employment? Those are the kind of questions I’d be asking.

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        No assets that I know of. I’m conflicted between doing no further harm to a very vulnerable person, and the rank terminally-stupid injustice done to the innocent accused.

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      Jeez that is messy.

      I’m not sure of the process but I’d try and get the posts removed (if they haven’t been already).

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      Wow! I thought my 290hrs this year was a high amount but not even close! It listed my top category as Literature and Fiction which only slightly edged out sci fi and myster/thriller categories which had a similar number of hours. It said I earned a ‘genre hopper ribbon’.

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      Stephen King? Yes, it probably would take that long to plough through one of his thicker books.

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        I think The Stand is my heart’s favourite even if it may not be his best. I remember getting stuck into the monster of a paperback when I was in my young teens and being absolutely absorbed. I relisten to it often

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        The fiction i read is mostly sci fi. I love it because most of the time, if written well, they are allegorical stories set in a unique world and setting.

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        Hmm. Good question… Might as well ask what I like about fiction, which would yield similar results. I’m not sure how to answer. For context I listen to audiobooks when I go to bed, sometimes for hours depending on my insomnia levels. It’s just nice to follow along an exciting and interesting story 🤷‍♂️. I’d say the biggest genre I listened to would be apocalyptic/post apocalyptic fiction, and zombie stuff. I think I like this because it’s a bit of escapism, it’s fun imagining how you would handle such a world, fighting for survival rather than the mundane day to day I currently have. I could probably go on and I don’t know if I could accurately even answer your question so this will have to do

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          I think you answered perfectly. Books are enjoyment and that’s all that matters.

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        Never know what to expect, and from all that imagination emerges the most heart wrenching moments

        Highly recommend Andy Weir’s Project Hail Mary

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          couldnt get into Hail Mary. LOVED The Martian, but Hail Mary missed the mark for me.

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          Fortunately I don’t own that nerd gene that can process someone else’s trip but I understand I am in the minority that is why I seek answers.

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            So for me my entire book collection is fantasy with a little bit of sci fi and I’m big into interactive sci fi and fantasy experiences (games).

            Basically it allows me to experience something that doesn’t exist and also delve into themes and ideas that might seem a little out there and I get fully immersed in those make believe worlds.

            It allows me to be part of something that I’ll never be able to be part of in real life as well.

            I also take it as it is and don’t question much as I get invested into those worlds, such as magic.

            I also have a great love for those things so that also helps me get into them more.

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              That’s interesting what you said about magic. It makes sense. You don’t have to understand it to enjoy it. I get that.