Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
So, my downvoter is obviously targetting anything I wrote with obvious transgender references. Mods, I can’t report them, but its very obvious. I can’t even block them. It’s deliberate and designed to wear me down. People say, be resilient, but that doesn’t help. People say their allies, but it’s all talk and no real action. .
Also, Nath, Please take the time to read the report into trans hate. https://transjustice.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Fuelling-Hate-Anti-Trans-Abuse-Harassment-and-Vilification-WEB-SINGLES-1-1.pdf
It’s pointless writing no transphobia if you don’t know how to recognise it, where it comes from or what to actually do about it. Blocking and banning people does nothing, people just re-sign up and continue their beligerence in a new name. This is why I’m thinking of leaving and it means the transphobic loser wins. It’s highly likely to be one of the regular posters here too.
There was a show on channel 7 last night again spreading complete lies about trans and gender diverse people and used people’s photos without their consent. This is real and why I’m not in the mood much to report people here. I’ll be writing complaint letters today and helping those who are now suffering because of their parents and such watched this crap and are fielding questions on where to turn for support. I do all this as a volunteer. I have a normal job too. I’m about at my capacity of dealing with the microaggressions and I’d like you to use what powers you have to stop the fucker from downvoting trans content. It seems silly and small, but no one else has been targeted.
Also remember, I now am about to catch public transport to about the only safe job I can find at the moment looking obviously trans the morning after this bullshit aired. It’s not that I’ll think I’ll be targeted, but it’s fucking anxiety inducing. Just remember, I’m not making up straw man arguments to bitch. I could a victim, THIS MORNING.
Sorry kids, have a nice day and enjoy bacon’s breakfast.
I think downvotes are completely anonymous?
I do recall seeing something that they actually aren’t and instance owners are able to see who downvotes things, but that was a couple of months ago and may have been changed. I’ll see if I can find the post
I remember that post. I have never loaded up the database directly to read votes. But yes, I do have that power. I will take a look tonight at what I can actually see later tonight after the kids have gone to bed. That’ll be around 11pm Melbourne time. Sorry I do have a day job and can’t look at this any time sooner.
Oh yeah, I wasn’t saying you didn’t, or accusing you of being unwilling, I was just responding to modern gods comment about vote anonymity
Also, FWIW, I think before you do look you should consider what sorts of implications this may potentially have. I absolutely think it’s warranted in this case - I don’t have much respect for transphobes that are too scared to actually publicly state their opinion, but since this will set a bit of a precedent, it may be worth making an announcement in the main community so that people know their votes aren’t anonymous and may be checked in certain circumstances? Again, I don’t really care, but it could of course be seen as somewhat of an invasion
Honestly you peeps running this are amazing. thanks Nath, you have been more than patient with my drama than I deserve or expected. Thank you so much. edit no rush and as I said to Rusty, I’d just like to know if it is indeed all the same person and if they’re a regular user. If it’s just me paranoid great. Hope it’s not too much of a stress.
Oh wow that’s interesting thank you.
Thanks, this is kind of what I was hoping, at least mods might be able to clear it up. Could well be I’m not being targeted by just one person but it’s almost always when I post stuff about being trans so it feels like it probably is.
It’s not something mods have any access to, and it is not information that is generally available at all. From that post it looks like a site admin might be able to write a script to get the information from the API, but I have no idea how complicated that would actually be. You would need to contact an admin and ask if you want them to do something like that.
But doing that would open up a lot of questions about what is appropriate in regards to site management, and you would need to be clear about exactly what you are asking. Are you just asking for someone to find out if it is a single person for your own piece of mind? Are you asking admins to take some sort of action against people who downvote your posts, and if so what? I’m really not clear on what you think should be done, you’ve said that blocking people does no good but you have not actually said what you think would work.
I want to support you, but as a moderator I have the ability to pin posts, remove specific posts/comments and block specific people from the group. That’s it.
Thanks Rusty, I really appreciate your time in writing this response. I’d like to know if it is one person, not who it is and If you can do anything about telling them to stop. It’s been going on since we all first started posting here and you’d be well aware of the lack of downvoting. But, I understand it’s not simple as you’ve pointed out and I’m sure it’s not really worth someone’s time in the grand scheme of admin of this forum. I just wish if all my transition updates were making someone uncomfortable they’d say so. Or if someone was transphobic they’d just go right ahead and say so. I accept that those people exist. I don’t think they’re entitled to an opinion on scientific facts but others see things differently. How I behave here and in the real world are different as well. We all have guidelines here we must adhere to. People questioning their gender and finding it difficult for example may find my generally very positive experiences with it challenging. I’ve encountered that a bit actually. Its easy to rush to the must be a transphobic loser scenario, but I’m across a lot of trans issues as well. Envy is real as well all just want to find some happiness and if others are having it seemingly better is can cause an amount of jealousy.
So look, for now, I’ll bear it. It’s my choice to stay if I choose and you’ve answered my questions, so thanks heaps! Thank heck we have good mods here.
This is dreadful. You take care.
Thanks mate. I’m not one to just sit around complaining, I do stuff, but heck, some complaints are worth making.
I believe you. I wish people would just mind their own business rather than harassing marginalised people based on what the TV says.
It’s weird saddo fascist shit and being pushed so aggressively on trans people now that gay people are more protected/are less of a socially accepted target
fucking hell. We need to start biting people.
(have you gotten in touch with Seahorse? They might be able to hook you up with some safety buddies)
who or what are seahorse? Biting? ok, I don’t like being that close to many people.
tl;dr: the OG for the trans comm in vic.
Thanks heaps for that, great resource of a bunch of stuff I already knew and a bunch of stuff I don’t know and can check out. I refer people to these types of places often in my volunteer work, so it’s really helpful to me for a bunch of reasons… <3
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I try and live in the positivity of my transition. Being trolled is bad. People being cunts is bad. I avoid the places where cunts are allowed to do so. And I know I’m appreciated here, but I have a lot of great things I want to live in and naturally leave shitty situations, for better or worse. Resilience i have in droves, but it’s pointless trying to force shit uphill too.
Also, Nath, Please take the time to read the report into trans hate. https://transjustice.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Fuelling-Hate-Anti-Trans-Abuse-Harassment-and-Vilification-WEB-SINGLES-1-1.pdf
Have just read this. I’m not sure grim reading like this should look so colourful and bright.
Interestingly, bad-faith participants submitted 80% (32) of their responses on just three of the nine days the survey was open and often only a few minutes apart. This concentration of responses suggests that the study was circulated among anti-trans networks on social media, either publicly or privately.
Notably, these respondents tended to skip most questions on the survey, answering only the open-text questions with comments ranging from a few sentences to lengthy essays. Several included links to identical anti-trans resources, further indicating a calculated approach to taking the survey.This is pretty awful, but it’s also pretty hopeful. 40 people out of 3,099 were Anti-trans. And to find that many, they spread the survey among hate groups and brigaded the responses. That actually gives me hope. It tells me that yes, there are morons out there, but even when banding together, they’re a tiny minority. Take some heart that 98.71% of the population supports trans rights. Yes, you’re in the trenches dealing with this every day, but you are surrounded by people who are on your side.
As to “all talk and no action”, how can we help? We want to help.
Thanks Nath, I really really appreciate that, yeah they chose the colours according to their branding. I’m kinda busy this evening and maybe later tonight depending on how many emails I get, but I’ll send you through some details on how to help.
The driving lesson went great, I even drove on one of the main roads. The instructor is very nice and really calm and understanding. Will definitely do another lesson with her.
So after a few weeks of mental anguish I have applied for four jobs today.
I’m just trying to celebrate the small wins, because big ones seem so far out of reach still.
best of luck to you!
Gotta be in it to win it mate.
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Good luck!
I am having a sort of low grade but continuous panic attack. I have a big conference coming up and I don’t feel grown up enough to network (even though it’s my job) and I have so much to do. Everything feels like a mess and I can’t seem to get enough focus to make any inroads on anything. I am scared of failing. I think I like things better when they are a struggle and I have nothing to lose. For once things are going well and I am so scared of stuffing it up.
Stupid brain
Slow start to the day but I just wanna say good morning motherfuckers. I’m getting shit done and feeling confident about it!
Sounds like you’re all outta gum
😎 😎 😎 🤠
God I absolutely despise when those executive high up gronks from companies go on the radio and and act like they understand. Fuck off, you don’t understand shit, you would have no problems with like… Being afford to live
Like the Qantas CEO saying things like “We’ve listened and so we’re changing” or any of the supermarket reps. All of it’s just fluff and BS
Yeah like the mega rich ones who sleep “rough” for one night to show solidarity to homeless. Build a fucking shelter arsehat.
If only there were some practical solutions they could implement immediately. Like quit avoiding your taxes. Or pay your employees properly.
Years ago my mate got a job at some sleep-rough-for-the-homeless gig at the MCG. Basically camping on the MCG field with cheap camp equipment to generate corporate goodwill. It rained. 90% of people left. Housemate came home with as many breakfast packs as he could carry. Like 50 of them. We all ate well for a few days.
I have no desire to leave the house due to excessive Weatherness so I’m instead doing weird house things like sorting the towel cupboard and washboarding stains off cleaning cloths in between bouts of work.
I also hope to solve the eternal conudrum of where to store the clotheshorse.
I’m clearing out my plastic cupboard which also houses shit like candles, more candles and FUCKING CANDLES.
see, we put the candles with the lightbulbs. And the spare batteries. Lovely little egg basket to take out in the event of disaster striking
Set the batteries on fire while you crack lightbulbs on each others heads! Yeehaw!!!
awww yiss I got a bunch of florescents under the house from the previous owner LETS DO THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
Lightsabers!!!
Biscoff Cheesecake 🔥
that looks pretty yummy 🤤
How was it?
It sounds like it would be sickly sweet.
Was a bit on the sweet side but it’s a small portion so…10/10 would do it again
Won a grand last night and decided to grab a snack and head to bed. Woke up at 7am and decided to go downstairs to cross off one of my to-do list items: McDonald’s McGriddles… $7 each? Yikes that is STEEP! Still, crossed that off the list, won another $600 and have returned to bed.
Photo of a McGriddle in case you’re unfamiliar. It’s like a McMuffin but little maple syrup infused pikelets instead of muffins.
that look like some kind of unnatural chimera , two delicious puffy tender pikelets and that bacon stuff🤯
and good work on the winnings 🍻
🤤I know what I want for breakfast this morning
I used to LOVE the Maccas UK bagels. Not a fan of the Maccas egg, but this has like scrambled eggs in it, was really nice.
Reminds me of a fried McMuffin. Looks pretty nice, though US$7 seems a bit steep for a tiny thing like that.
I’ve seen enough movies to know something is buried here…
In-N-Out woot!
I loved how empty of pedestrians US streets are. Americans don’t walk anywhere, except maybe in New York. They have drive-through everything. Even ATMs.
At San Diego zoo, this was a superpower. I walked between exhibits, everyone else took little shuttle busses. By moving between wavews of visitors, I had each exhibit to myself pretty much.
Drive through banks and pharmacies really blew my mind. What the fuck.
My guess. A burger wrapper.
It’s either buried, or a portal/checkpoint waiting to be activated.
rolls out of bed and into floor
whines
Rolls out door and down hallway
continues whining
stubs a toe
whines
goes back to bed
Went to a town out in the Arizona desert called Oatman today, out on the famous Route 66. Thing about Oatman is that it’s home to wild donkeys who just hang about and receive pats and nibbles from people.
I have a few great photos but I’ll post this one… because it’s always good to start the work week with a little ass.
Went through gtown station and accidentally got 2 potato cakes.
I said never again before.
i feel great shame.
Back on the wagon m’boy
Those wheels have fallen off :(
I just fed my poor innocent cat her laxative… 😔 There will be tummy aches tonight. Cuddles will be dispensed.
Unrelated, does life lately feel incredibly tough for everyone else? Like you work hard but never catch a break and nothing can ever go smoothly
Been feeling a little bit of that ever since the pandemic started.
Not necessarily long COVID, but just that everything got that bit harder, and everyone has become a bit less forgiving since. At the very least, prices have shot up.
People generally more tetchy or much nicer and understanding. iow, a bit of polarisation there
Things are generally ok for myself and the ProcrastiFamily, but the Voice stuff is giving me huge anxiety. I’m seeing so much racism and hate online and can’t even imagine how First Nations people must be feeling at the moment.
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Yep it definitely should be “Thank you for sharing”