She lied very poorly about what she did when she woke up in th outside world. She said it was a boring apartment when nothing to an innie would be boring, everything would be new and interesting. Also the night gardener deal. There is no such thing. And then her behaviour was off, she was beyond mean, she was cruel. And of course who else would have the power to do such things?
at the same time, I think Harmony figured out ( in the car park/building entrance) that Helena was acting as an innie, that’s why she got spooked and ran.
I think combined with Irving realising that Helly wasn’t mean when she made the comment about Bert, the gardener comment when recalling what she saw in the outside world and him realising that only someone with a massive amount of power could enable an outie to come into the team while suppressing the innie personality.
Some are saying it has to do with the letters on Irving’s computer during his dream that could spell out EAGAN and he was already sus because of how little detail she gave about her OTC experience. I didn’t really notice the letters because I watched it in 2x speed like a criminal. Might have to rewatch too
Watched it at 2X speed? I have no words, my heart is crushed. The disrespect to my current favourite show!
This show is as much about the characters, corporate satire, the politics of power, depression, fanaticism, as it is about straight up plot. If you rewatch from that point of view, it will make more sense.
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You have to remember that the innies know very few people. They spend their entire waking existence with their team, so if someone is not behaving as themselves it will be noticeable. Irv was suspicious of the gardener story, and then various other interactions he had with Helly seemed off. Her tone of voice, he face, everything was slightly off. Mark didn’t notice because he had rose coloured glasses on, and Dylan never went ‘overtime’ because he was holding the switches. So Irv was the one who was most sensitive to the changes in Helly. He felt he had nothing to loose, since Burt wasn’t at Lumon anymore, so took the risk for the sake of Helly and the team.
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How did Irving know Helena was an Eagan?
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She lied very poorly about what she did when she woke up in th outside world. She said it was a boring apartment when nothing to an innie would be boring, everything would be new and interesting. Also the night gardener deal. There is no such thing. And then her behaviour was off, she was beyond mean, she was cruel. And of course who else would have the power to do such things?
at the same time, I think Harmony figured out ( in the car park/building entrance) that Helena was acting as an innie, that’s why she got spooked and ran.
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I think combined with Irving realising that Helly wasn’t mean when she made the comment about Bert, the gardener comment when recalling what she saw in the outside world and him realising that only someone with a massive amount of power could enable an outie to come into the team while suppressing the innie personality.
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That’s a bit of a leap for him to put two and two together!
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Hopefully I’m not missing something, may have to rewatch the last few episodes.
@[email protected] Might be able to share some more insights into this.
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Some are saying it has to do with the letters on Irving’s computer during his dream that could spell out EAGAN and he was already sus because of how little detail she gave about her OTC experience. I didn’t really notice the letters because I watched it in 2x speed like a criminal. Might have to rewatch too
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I went back to the scene with the letters as I didn’t notice it the first time around.
There’s a bunch of E A G N all over the place when screen starts to warp. Went too quick for me last night
Watched it at 2X speed? I have no words, my heart is crushed. The disrespect to my current favourite show!
This show is as much about the characters, corporate satire, the politics of power, depression, fanaticism, as it is about straight up plot. If you rewatch from that point of view, it will make more sense.
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You have to remember that the innies know very few people. They spend their entire waking existence with their team, so if someone is not behaving as themselves it will be noticeable. Irv was suspicious of the gardener story, and then various other interactions he had with Helly seemed off. Her tone of voice, he face, everything was slightly off. Mark didn’t notice because he had rose coloured glasses on, and Dylan never went ‘overtime’ because he was holding the switches. So Irv was the one who was most sensitive to the changes in Helly. He felt he had nothing to loose, since Burt wasn’t at Lumon anymore, so took the risk for the sake of Helly and the team.
This is the best take I have read :)
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full certainty is not required, great probability is all that’s needed, it’s real life, not a court case.
I thought the whole ep was a bit weird.
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Felt like almost filler. Not much plot advancement or anything. Bit random and unnecessary for me