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Following some research into yesterday’s thread, which I still have access to minus Baku’s comments which were deleted by their account at around midnight, it appears this is American election related.
I have no issue with free discussion and civil disagreements, I have no intention of over controlling discussion on this forum.
My main concern here is how the history of this groups previous dailies may have been impacted as a result of a user who had been posting the daily and I will need to start considering more appropriate means of posting dailies to avoid this kind of issue going forward.
As some of you may have noticed, I’m not too talkative most days and I mostly just check in at midnight if I am awake to make sure the previous daily ends and the new one begins. I don’t have any reports to action, but I will need to have a look at the threads I personally have access to some more. But most importantly I am going to have to consider how to ensure a more consistent daily thread that is less likely to disappear, whether I can return it myself or not, etc.
Additionally, it’s about time I start investigating Lemmy’s bot mechanics, I was waiting to complete my current personal server migration to a complete hypervisor solution rather than utilising one of my already overworked Raspberry Pi’s, I’ll have to get on to this matter more quickly.
Edit2: It’s starting to look like I will be unable to return the posts that where deleted as a result of Baku’s account nuking, I do have personal access to all of them without their comments as it was actioned by me in featuring them, but the posts themselves where of the account that is now no longer available.
This makes it clear that I need to make some changes going forward in how the daily functions.
An automated daily posting would be the right way to go, if it’s possible. It means it’s not dependant on any specific user being awake, remembering, or have obligations to remain a user here, in case they ever wish to delete their account. A lot of people find value in the community here and it would be a pity to loose that. I feel terrible about the interactions I saw yesterday. I hope Baku and Spud both Ok and would like to come back when they are ready.
I have screenshots, I went off on him. I take the blame tbh.
I’ve unsubbed to c/Melbourne, so he’s free to come back or whatever he wants to do. If you want the screenshots to make an assessment, DM me and I can send you them.
I appreciated you pointing out that his initial comment that prompted your reaction was quite thoughtless, but can tell from previous interactions that you two had some tension.
It really really should be posted by a specific account or something. Could maybe set one up and give regulars the password on request? Only allow dt threads on it and revoke access for misuse?
Thank you for that, I have taken a look at them with greater context of what was being discussed in yesterday’s thread.
We hadn’t dealt with this kind of issue from regulars that I have seen from my notifications or the modlog until now, I would have preferred Baku had reported your comments so that I could have actioned them when I came online at midnight.
Part of the issue may have been my lack of participation in the daily discussions themselves, so I haven’t been as viewable as I should be, but I have been checking daily for months. It’s important that we avoid letting these kinds of interpersonal issues feel like they aren’t going to be actioned by the mods.
Your comments directed towards Baku appear to be targeted in a way that are absolutely against the community rules, the subject matter is allowed as we haven’t barred specific topics from the daily, only the manner in which users talk to each other. I have yet to issue just a temporary band so far on this platform, so I am learning as I go.
Considering that part of this issue is the lack of established rules, penalties and more importantly the lack of assurance that I will action issues in due time, this isn’t a permanent ban. You will be welcome back in 72hrs, knowing that I can’t guarantee not issuing a permanent ban if an issue like this where to occur by yourself or another user in the future.
Today was a weird day for everyone, come back in 3 days and let’s get back to normal appropriate behaviour. I will be looking at where I went wrong and hopefully have a community post in how we can avoid this in the future by the time you come back.
Edit3: I have spoken to both Starchy & Baku in DM’s, Baku didn’t intend for the previous threads to go down and they are currently still publicly viewable here;
Edit4: It’s looking like it may take 30 days for federated instance to scrap deleted account content, hopefully that is the case, and we can archive the daily’s posted by Baku’s account before they are completely gone.
Understood and accepted, no arguments from me, I was in the wrong. Thank you for looking into it, and I appreciate you taking the time out of your night to do so.
I just noticed that. Is it just the thread or is Baku nuked?
It’s my damn fault. I brought up an awkward topic. :( My comment should have been deleted, or I should have received a warning to not talk about such things. Not him.
It is looking like they deleted their account and comments, without seeing their comments I don’t have a full picture of whether they said anything that would warrant a banning of future Baku accounts.
I haven’t seen anything so far that was by you and targeted harassment toward other users.
Was the previous daily deleted by accident?
Edit: Baku’s account isn’t showing up.
Following some research into yesterday’s thread, which I still have access to minus Baku’s comments which were deleted by their account at around midnight, it appears this is American election related.
I have no issue with free discussion and civil disagreements, I have no intention of over controlling discussion on this forum.
My main concern here is how the history of this groups previous dailies may have been impacted as a result of a user who had been posting the daily and I will need to start considering more appropriate means of posting dailies to avoid this kind of issue going forward.
As some of you may have noticed, I’m not too talkative most days and I mostly just check in at midnight if I am awake to make sure the previous daily ends and the new one begins. I don’t have any reports to action, but I will need to have a look at the threads I personally have access to some more. But most importantly I am going to have to consider how to ensure a more consistent daily thread that is less likely to disappear, whether I can return it myself or not, etc.
Additionally, it’s about time I start investigating Lemmy’s bot mechanics, I was waiting to complete my current personal server migration to a complete hypervisor solution rather than utilising one of my already overworked Raspberry Pi’s, I’ll have to get on to this matter more quickly.
Edit2: It’s starting to look like I will be unable to return the posts that where deleted as a result of Baku’s account nuking, I do have personal access to all of them without their comments as it was actioned by me in featuring them, but the posts themselves where of the account that is now no longer available.
This makes it clear that I need to make some changes going forward in how the daily functions.
An automated daily posting would be the right way to go, if it’s possible. It means it’s not dependant on any specific user being awake, remembering, or have obligations to remain a user here, in case they ever wish to delete their account. A lot of people find value in the community here and it would be a pity to loose that. I feel terrible about the interactions I saw yesterday. I hope Baku and Spud both Ok and would like to come back when they are ready.
I’ve noticed that the Brisbane mob seem to have a daily bot - maybe if we ask them nicely they’ll share the code?
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Hmm that’s certainly something I didn’t see coming.
Thought the threads would still be here but it looks like they were totally wiped out of existence.
If I look at my own personal history I can see the comments I made to yesterday’s thread, just not the thread nor other poster’s comments.
They are currently still public on another instance;
https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]
I can only see seagoons ones (admittedly on a client app)
When you click in the app, I believe it redirects you to your local instance where it is already removed.
I have screenshots, I went off on him. I take the blame tbh.
I’ve unsubbed to c/Melbourne, so he’s free to come back or whatever he wants to do. If you want the screenshots to make an assessment, DM me and I can send you them.
I appreciated you pointing out that his initial comment that prompted your reaction was quite thoughtless, but can tell from previous interactions that you two had some tension.
It really really should be posted by a specific account or something. Could maybe set one up and give regulars the password on request? Only allow dt threads on it and revoke access for misuse?
I sent you a dm with the screenshots for your assessment.
Thank you for that, I have taken a look at them with greater context of what was being discussed in yesterday’s thread.
We hadn’t dealt with this kind of issue from regulars that I have seen from my notifications or the modlog until now, I would have preferred Baku had reported your comments so that I could have actioned them when I came online at midnight.
Part of the issue may have been my lack of participation in the daily discussions themselves, so I haven’t been as viewable as I should be, but I have been checking daily for months. It’s important that we avoid letting these kinds of interpersonal issues feel like they aren’t going to be actioned by the mods.
Your comments directed towards Baku appear to be targeted in a way that are absolutely against the community rules, the subject matter is allowed as we haven’t barred specific topics from the daily, only the manner in which users talk to each other. I have yet to issue just a temporary band so far on this platform, so I am learning as I go.
Considering that part of this issue is the lack of established rules, penalties and more importantly the lack of assurance that I will action issues in due time, this isn’t a permanent ban. You will be welcome back in 72hrs, knowing that I can’t guarantee not issuing a permanent ban if an issue like this where to occur by yourself or another user in the future.
Today was a weird day for everyone, come back in 3 days and let’s get back to normal appropriate behaviour. I will be looking at where I went wrong and hopefully have a community post in how we can avoid this in the future by the time you come back.
Edit3: I have spoken to both Starchy & Baku in DM’s, Baku didn’t intend for the previous threads to go down and they are currently still publicly viewable here;
https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]
Edit4: It’s looking like it may take 30 days for federated instance to scrap deleted account content, hopefully that is the case, and we can archive the daily’s posted by Baku’s account before they are completely gone.
Understood and accepted, no arguments from me, I was in the wrong. Thank you for looking into it, and I appreciate you taking the time out of your night to do so.
I just noticed that. Is it just the thread or is Baku nuked?
It’s my damn fault. I brought up an awkward topic. :( My comment should have been deleted, or I should have received a warning to not talk about such things. Not him.
Is he going to be allowed back?
It wasn’t you. It was me melbaboutown.
Oh ok, I just assumed I had called down the lightning bolt of automoderation
It is looking like they deleted their account and comments, without seeing their comments I don’t have a full picture of whether they said anything that would warrant a banning of future Baku accounts.
I haven’t seen anything so far that was by you and targeted harassment toward other users.
Yeah my comment was nothing like that. Just discussing a controversial action by a public figure.
Baku is a regular and not a troll. He just said something divisive.
his posts and comments are coming up deleted
That appears the case, I have access to deleted threads minus just Baku’s comments.