• wildwhitehorses
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    Soo… how old are parents of these kids… is it my generation that is raising these kids, why are parents creating these kids, or what other influences are creating this situation?

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      I do think that it’s a genuinely difficult and complicated issue, from the perspective of “why are the kids behaving this way”. It’s a problem of parenting; a problem of how the parents were parented (basically: “my parents didn’t oversee my technology use and I turned out fine, so I’ll do the same”); and most significantly (in my opinion) a completely new technology landscape. Parents do need to get better at parenting, but that doesn’t let Meta (Facebook, Instagram), Google (especially YouTube), and ByteDance (TikTok) off the hook for algorithms that feed young impressionable people with abhorrent content solely because that is what makes their platforms the most money. Parents can and should be helping their children learn to avoid harmful content or restrict their access to said content, but they’re fighting against the tide as long as the platforms themselves want to feed that content to them.

      One thing that’s less complicated is this: regardless of the underlying causes, teachers should not have to put up with abuse. Abusive students should be removed from the classroom, whether they’re abusing the teacher or other students. Their education is important and I understand why schools and education departments are hesitant to do this, but the physical and mental wellbeing of others should be more important.

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      14 days ago
      1. you’re gonna get shitheads in every generation

      2. The shithead scions set off the other teens who are in fact just teenagers and doing dumb rebellious teenaged shit. The former will pull up or end up on meth. The latter will look back and cringe.

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      Partially it is the Parents and partially it is the media.

      The thing is that the parents are the ones who are not providing good role-models to their boys so the boys look to MRA arseholes as their role models instead. Mainstream media and the Independent media they are being exposed to by ThE aLgOrYtHmS reinforces their opinions.

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    Why would anyone become a teacher?

    Society run for profit devolves into whatever this clown shit we got… It seems

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      Come on. Why would anyone care about anything? Cos it’s human nature. We should care, especially in messed up times like these. How else are things going to get better?

      “Unless someone like you cares an awful lot, nothing’s gonna get better, it’s not.”

      Teachers should get paid way better so that people actually want the job. Otherwise we may as well leave the next generations education to big tech, and they have zero interest in anything but getting users hooked on content for their ad revenue, toxic or not… How messed up would that be?

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        We are already there.

        Also why would anyone care about other peoples poorly parented crotch fruit.

        I don’t want to be around other peoles children. I understand why nobody else would would either esp for the privilege of living in poverty. If people want a functional society, they should prioritize the services that make it so.

        Ain’t it grand how day care costs so much and day care providers make jack shot compensation.

        Universities charge a ton but most teaching is done by underpaid non tenetured professors.

        Parasites are leeching everywhere

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    Why the clickbait? Just put why they’re leaving the profession in the title and save us a click

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    Mehh, theres no way to control the kids if they don’t want to be and lots ofrepercussions if you do.

    Solutions, I don’t have any but it will only get worse.

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    Is the latest generation of teachers just not prepared for job?

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      Bad take. Is not teachers’ job to instill good morals in kids.

      It also shouldn’t be in them to put up with abuse in the workplace, regardless of who’s the one delivering that abuse.

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        Is not teachers’ job to instill good morals in kids.

        That would be on the parents

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          Yes, but also on broader society. 100 years ago that would have been contained - people in you’re neighbourhood would know you and help out. It’s a lot harder in the internet age

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          Yes. I would suggest having human decency is the bare minimum of good morals.

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      As a person who has a teacher in my direct family, I can tell you that it wouldn’t matter what preparation and training they are given.

      Part of the reason is that they have zero ability to control the kids in the class because if they do, the parents will basically sue the school, rip into the teacher (Because little Jimmy is just their perfect angel and can do no wrong.), and you can do nothing to any child that speaks to you like that, in any way whatsoever.

      The system is completely broken and the teachers just sit there and get abused from day to day to day. It’s been happening for years now.

      I tell you what, next time some little teenage shit tells you you’re a “fat fucking cunt of a piece of shit” (for example, to mirror the linked article’s language), and tells you day to day to your face, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Let’s just see how well prepared you are.

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        What ever happened to detentions, suspensions and expulsion?

        Soft.

        Schools need to start issuing “Your kid is a cunt” warnings to parents, with threats of abuse and harassment criminal charges. If public health staff won’t put up with it, why should teachers?

        Parents and school won’t do shit. Call the cops. Except in America, because that will get someone shot.

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          No meaningful consequences is definitely part of the problem. I was once told of a student who threw a chair at a TV. Breaking both chair and TV.

          Consequences? He was given a card that says he was naughty, and was told to give it to his parents. The card was promptly thrown in the bin. Nothing else happened.

          The soft touch approach is too soft. They’re being set up for failure in the real world. Can’t wait for them to try this shit at uni/tafe/job.

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            The hell? The parents should pay it (hopefully scolding the kid) and the student give a handwritten apology.

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            I still remember a father bringing a toilet to school after his dear kid brought a fire crackers to to school and fucked around…

            The lesson was not to throw fire crackers into the toilet!

            What a different time lol