Female teachers are being sworn at, sexually harassed and physically threatened in high schools by male students. They say young men are bringing the misogynistic ideas of Andrew Tate and other online influencers into the classroom.
Yes, but also on broader society. 100 years ago that would have been contained - people in you’re neighbourhood would know you and help out. It’s a lot harder in the internet age
Back in 2000, a guy named Robert Putnam wrote a book based on his research into why there has been a breakdown in community in America: http://bowlingalone.com/
(If you ever hear someone use the phrase “social capital”, they’re alluding to his research.)
Oh yeah, for sure. Wasn’t meaning to imply this is ONLY because of the internet. The car also has a lot to answer for, as well as presumably many other factors.
As a person who has a teacher in my direct family, I can tell you that it wouldn’t matter what preparation and training they are given.
Part of the reason is that they have zero ability to control the kids in the class because if they do, the parents will basically sue the school, rip into the teacher (Because little Jimmy is just their perfect angel and can do no wrong.), and you can do nothing to any child that speaks to you like that, in any way whatsoever.
The system is completely broken and the teachers just sit there and get abused from day to day to day. It’s been happening for years now.
I tell you what, next time some little teenage shit tells you you’re a “fat fucking cunt of a piece of shit” (for example, to mirror the linked article’s language), and tells you day to day to your face, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Let’s just see how well prepared you are.
What ever happened to detentions, suspensions and expulsion?
Soft.
Schools need to start issuing “Your kid is a cunt” warnings to parents, with threats of abuse and harassment criminal charges. If public health staff won’t put up with it, why should teachers?
Parents and school won’t do shit. Call the cops.
Except in America, because that will get someone shot.
No meaningful consequences is definitely part of the problem. I was once told of a student who threw a chair at a TV. Breaking both chair and TV.
Consequences? He was given a card that says he was naughty, and was told to give it to his parents. The card was promptly thrown in the bin. Nothing else happened.
The soft touch approach is too soft. They’re being set up for failure in the real world. Can’t wait for them to try this shit at uni/tafe/job.
Is the latest generation of teachers just not prepared for job?
Bad take. Is not teachers’ job to instill good morals in kids.
It also shouldn’t be in them to put up with abuse in the workplace, regardless of who’s the one delivering that abuse.
That would be on the parents
Yes, but also on broader society. 100 years ago that would have been contained - people in you’re neighbourhood would know you and help out. It’s a lot harder in the internet age
@naught101 @lost_faith It predates the internet.
Back in 2000, a guy named Robert Putnam wrote a book based on his research into why there has been a breakdown in community in America: http://bowlingalone.com/
(If you ever hear someone use the phrase “social capital”, they’re alluding to his research.)
Oh yeah, for sure. Wasn’t meaning to imply this is ONLY because of the internet. The car also has a lot to answer for, as well as presumably many other factors.
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Yes. I would suggest having human decency is the bare minimum of good morals.
Yet it is. It’s a broken system.
As a person who has a teacher in my direct family, I can tell you that it wouldn’t matter what preparation and training they are given.
Part of the reason is that they have zero ability to control the kids in the class because if they do, the parents will basically sue the school, rip into the teacher (Because little Jimmy is just their perfect angel and can do no wrong.), and you can do nothing to any child that speaks to you like that, in any way whatsoever.
The system is completely broken and the teachers just sit there and get abused from day to day to day. It’s been happening for years now.
I tell you what, next time some little teenage shit tells you you’re a “fat fucking cunt of a piece of shit” (for example, to mirror the linked article’s language), and tells you day to day to your face, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Let’s just see how well prepared you are.
What ever happened to detentions, suspensions and expulsion?
Soft.
Schools need to start issuing “Your kid is a cunt” warnings to parents, with threats of abuse and harassment criminal charges. If public health staff won’t put up with it, why should teachers?
Parents and school won’t do shit. Call the cops. Except in America, because that will get someone shot.
No meaningful consequences is definitely part of the problem. I was once told of a student who threw a chair at a TV. Breaking both chair and TV.
Consequences? He was given a card that says he was naughty, and was told to give it to his parents. The card was promptly thrown in the bin. Nothing else happened.
The soft touch approach is too soft. They’re being set up for failure in the real world. Can’t wait for them to try this shit at uni/tafe/job.
The hell? The parents should pay it (hopefully scolding the kid) and the student give a handwritten apology.
I still remember a father bringing a toilet to school after his dear kid brought a fire crackers to to school and fucked around…
The lesson was not to throw fire crackers into the toilet!
What a different time lol
Sarcasm?