I really hate that that’s even a thing. Logically, my brain wants to do it in the order that it’s shown in. Doing it any other way just feels unnatural. Like building a roof before building the house
The next year I learned BODMAS instead, which was initially confusing but introduced the idea that the exact order can be a bit variable, as long as you do the multiplication/division bits first.
I vaguely remember BIDMAS, but my brain wasn’t braining that day, so I don’t really remember it
Edit: I also remember asking my workers about it when I got home (although I also remember getting it confused and asking them if they learnt “BIMBAS”, and one of them said they got BEDMAS, I think the other got PEDMAS
They are all basically the same thing. Brackets (aka parenthesis) are done first - that’s basically the entire point of brackets. Then you do all the multiplication stuff, which includes division (which is just multiplication in reverse), fractions (which are another way of writing division) and exponentials (which are a shorthand for multiplication of a number by itself). Then you do all the addition/subtraction stuff. Within those three groups it doesn’t really matter which ones you do first.
It helps to think of it in terms of something concrete - biscuits are good. Multiplication type maths is dealing with packets, addition is like individual biscuits. So if you have 3 packets containing 12 tim tams, plus 5 tim tams, to work out how many you need to work out how many in packets first, then add the individual biscuits - so 3 x 12 + 5, equals 36+5. When you look at it that way it becomes fairly clear that adding your pack of 12 to 5 individual biscuits and then mulitplying that by the 3 packs just doesn’t make sense.
Within those three groups it doesn’t really matter which ones you do first
It absolutely does matter. You must do exponents after brackets and before multiplication and division, for the precise reason you said that exponents are shorthand for multiplication. In other words, there’s 4 groups, not three.
I had the order of operations with no problems, but somehow managed to calculate 18-12 = 4 which really messed me up.
I am good at maths in theory, but tend to muddle up calculations in my head. I really need to be able to pin the numbers down on paper, in my head it’s like they wriggle around on me.
I had to remember the order of operations, managed the correct answer after a shameful number of minutes 😬 BEDMAS helps
I really hate that that’s even a thing. Logically, my brain wants to do it in the order that it’s shown in. Doing it any other way just feels unnatural. Like building a roof before building the house
Helps to isolate the problem by putting brackets round anything that you KNOW needs to be done separately.
Doesn’t help much if I don’t KNOW what needs to be done separately.
PEMDAS
parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction.
That’s how I remember it.
I learned BOMDAS
brackets, of, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction
The next year I learned BODMAS instead, which was initially confusing but introduced the idea that the exact order can be a bit variable, as long as you do the multiplication/division bits first.
I vaguely remember BIDMAS, but my brain wasn’t braining that day, so I don’t really remember it
Edit: I also remember asking my workers about it when I got home (although I also remember getting it confused and asking them if they learnt “BIMBAS”, and one of them said they got BEDMAS, I think the other got PEDMAS
See, I learned Bomdas first, then was informed it was wrong and to use PEMDAS. I have no idea which one is the correct one anymore.
They are all basically the same thing. Brackets (aka parenthesis) are done first - that’s basically the entire point of brackets. Then you do all the multiplication stuff, which includes division (which is just multiplication in reverse), fractions (which are another way of writing division) and exponentials (which are a shorthand for multiplication of a number by itself). Then you do all the addition/subtraction stuff. Within those three groups it doesn’t really matter which ones you do first.
It helps to think of it in terms of something concrete - biscuits are good. Multiplication type maths is dealing with packets, addition is like individual biscuits. So if you have 3 packets containing 12 tim tams, plus 5 tim tams, to work out how many you need to work out how many in packets first, then add the individual biscuits - so 3 x 12 + 5, equals 36+5. When you look at it that way it becomes fairly clear that adding your pack of 12 to 5 individual biscuits and then mulitplying that by the 3 packs just doesn’t make sense.
It absolutely does matter. You must do exponents after brackets and before multiplication and division, for the precise reason you said that exponents are shorthand for multiplication. In other words, there’s 4 groups, not three.
And this is why I use a calculator
They’re all correct, since the mnemonics are just ways to remember the actual rules
I had the order of operations with no problems, but somehow managed to calculate 18-12 = 4 which really messed me up.
I am good at maths in theory, but tend to muddle up calculations in my head. I really need to be able to pin the numbers down on paper, in my head it’s like they wriggle around on me.
Similar with spelling for me. Can’t do it out loud without at least air writing it with a finger, and paper is better. Odd mental blank spot.