• Cypher
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    2 days ago

    I see no evidence backed by actual science that allowing NDIS funded access to sex services improves outcomes for the community.

    And I don’t just mean the disabled community but broader society, which is paying for the NDIS.

    If this is about funding making a subset of people feel good and not about actual outcomes then I might as well ask for taxpayers to fund my holidays.

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      7 hours ago

      disabled people have sexual needs as well jsyk. You may not like it, but they do.

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        47 minutes ago

        And I have a need for some rest and relaxation from the daily grind. I would rather spend my money on myself than on hookers for someone else.

        Weird I know.

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      Making people feel good is an actual outcome. In fact, it’s the only actual outcome.

      Who cares about quarterly profits, and budget savings, and a strong economy, and anything else, if it doesn’t make people feel good? Our laws and our economy should be designed with the intention of having a society of people who are happy. If the system isn’t designed to increase happiness, then everything it accomplishes is pointless.

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        Also acknowledges the fact that those at the bottom of this awful economic hierarchy miss out on some of the things that “regular” people take for granted. You know, the basic enjoyments that make life bearable so we don’t off ourselves. Everyone should consider themselves one accident away from being destitute if they don’t have family wealth. Then consider what your life could be like in that scenario. A car crash happens, and then you could spend the rest of your life never touching skin with another person.

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        Everyone else who pays taxes towards a program like the NDIS is giving up a little of their own quality of life.

        Hookers shouldn’t be getting NDIS funds paid to them when there are still people going without and this is part of balancing the budget to ensure the NDIS is sustainable.

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          Everyone else who pays taxes towards a program like the NDIS is giving up a little of their own quality of life.

          This is such a myth. Look at how much you are taxed each year and then take out the percentage that is funding the NDIS. It will be fuck all, nowhere near enough to affect your quality of life.

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            44 minutes ago

            More of my tax is going to the NDIS than to Medicare.

            I would rather funds be spent on Medicare than hookers but you do you.

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          Oh bullshit.

          You don’t apply this to aged care. You don’t apply this to military funding. You don’t apply this to schooling - i’ve no kids and am menopausal so why should i give a shit about giving up parts of myyyyy quality of life for your kids???

          Well i do because i’m not a fucking sociopath

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            Well that’s a lot of false equivalence going on, good luck with that.

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          Just tax billionaires more. It’s not that hard. Australia doesn’t have a budget problem, it has a not taxing billionaires problem. There’s no point trying to save money by taking shit away from disabled poor people. That’s pinching pennies while burning hundred bills.

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            Every government that has tried to tax billionaires more has been voted out.

            No government is going to win an election when smear campaigns can truthfully say the government is paying for hookers.

            Welcome to reality.

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              So you’re celebrating a pointless penny pinching law legislating against people who already had their need validated in a court of law… Because that’s what other people think?

              Get your own opinions.

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                a pointless penny pinching law

                Really?

                At an annual running cost of $35.8 billion in 2022-23, the federal government will spend more on the NDIS this financial year than Medicare ($30.8 billion), aged care ($27.7 billion), and support for state government hospitals ($27.3 billion).

                Penny pinching on one of the least productive, most expensive government expenses! Crazy! I have no idea why they are so focused on it.

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                  Okay now give the statistic for how much the hookers cost the taxpayer. You seem very confident that stopping the hookers will balance the budget, so you must have the figures to back your position up.

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                    likewise, since you’re so certain it’s penny pinching feel free to post your numbers

                    i support all attempts to reduce the cost of this massively overbloated free money train

                    to quote the greens

                    Senator Jordon Steele-John, the Australian Greens spokesperson for Disability Rights and Services, has claimed that the reforms will result in the removal of crucial disability services, stating that ‘the Labor government is choosing to remove $14.4 billion in funding from the NDIS that will lead to disabled people not getting the support they need when they need it’.

                    Im not sure how $14.4 billion of tax payer money is penny pinching

                    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Budget/reviews/2024-25/NDIS

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                No I’m against it because I don’t believe in paying for sex, that sex workers are predatory and undeserving of public funds.

                I was pointing out the political reality of the situation because regardless of my personal opinion the outcome will be decided by the electorate.

                Again, welcome to reality, sometimes life sucks and then you die.