• wscholermann
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    5 hours ago

    So I think we can all agree that constant population growth is bad for the environment.

    And yet our economy hinges on it.

    So…why are we still doing it? Same for constant economic growth in general.

    At some point human society needs to reorganise around something other than the “economy”.

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      It’s not just money, there are too people who don’t care so much about getting money as making other people suffer.

      I don’t know what we can do about that other than have safety nets.

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      4 hours ago

      The real problem imo is that the rich and shameless and/or powerful are stuck in an exploitative 19th century mindset, while the real world has moved on. Have you read Jared Diamond’s masterful depiction in Collapse - How Societies Choose to Survive or Choose to Fail? I found that book mindblowing. Also Tim Flannery’s The Future Eaters, which I regard as essential reading for anyone living in Australia rn. Some of the science is dated, but imo still valid in essence. And both authors are right on the money when it comes to how humans react to social stressors.

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        3 hours ago

        I hung out with Tim and his wife for a week in the far north of WA many years ago. They’re really cool and smart people. Bit of a secret: Tim is the famous one, but Alex is probably the smarter and cooler of the two. Shh! 😃

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          Jelly! That would have been fabulous! Tim has been one of my heroes for some time - glad to know Alex is up to his weight and then some.

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        3 hours ago

        I have not read these books however thankyou for the recommendation might try and check them out.