The FOI dude provided me with their logic on not releasing AV locations. The crux of their argument boils down to “ambulance stations have less staff than police stations and store medication, and rather than calling 000, people may go to an ambulance station instead”
On the one hand that sounds sorta reasonable, but A. Some locations are listed publicly already, B. Ambulance stations are usually marked as ambulance stations and usually have… You guessed it… ambulances in the vicinity. Also NSW ambulance locations are public, and I take it other states would be too
Hmm, it’s not like the physical locations have giant, unsubtle signage or anything. And noisy ambulances coming in and out. The locals definitely know where the ambulance station is.
I didn’t even have to go hunting for it, I just drove past it in Mallacoota and thought it looked fun. Tbh that does look really easy to rob, so I can understand their point. I mean bloody hell, they must’ve spent their whole security budget on that yellow sign warning you about the cameras
I have zero clue where the Ambulance substations are in WA - other than the local one in my area. So far as I know, the ambulance services here aren’t even run by the government. The main service is provided by St John’s Ambulance, and there are private ambulance services that do some events and patient transfers.
I assume the latter sort operate out of some industrial area depot(s) somewhere.
Yep. For some reason both WA and the NT went the private ambo route. St John’s is a not for profit charity though, so I guess that makes it slightly less shit. For the most part, all the other mainland states and territories run their own Ambos, although depending on where you are there’s sometimes a fair few st John’s Ambos floating around as well.
Your EmergencyWA site doesn’t seem to show emergency stations, at least on mobile. VicEmergency shows the location of all the emergency services
Red F for fire brigade, P for police, I’m sure you get the picture. Green F is Forest Industry Brigade/Forest Fire Management Victoria. They’re an odd organisation too. They seem to mostly exist as a loose grouping of private fire engines operated by forestrys to, y’know, make sure they don’t burn down, except sometimes they also have their own apparatuses and stations and staff. Unlike AV they basically are a spy agency. Damn near impossible to find anything about them or their vehicles
St John’s is a not for profit charity though, so I guess that makes it slightly less shit
St John’s has near universal acclaim in the community. I honestly never hear anything against them.
It’s not so much that the government “went the private route” as that St Johns have been providing services since the 1800’s. I just looked it up, the city ambulance service started in 1922 - over 100 years ago. So, it’s more that we already had a perfectly good ambulance service and the government has never needed to replace it.
That was not a dig on them or their staff. That was just my opinion that private health services are generally shit (shit THAT they’re privatised, and not necessarily shit as an entity).
Personally, I consider any ambulance service not run by the health department or another branch of government to be private, regardless of how long they have existed.
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The FOI dude provided me with their logic on not releasing AV locations. The crux of their argument boils down to “ambulance stations have less staff than police stations and store medication, and rather than calling 000, people may go to an ambulance station instead”
On the one hand that sounds sorta reasonable, but A. Some locations are listed publicly already, B. Ambulance stations are usually marked as ambulance stations and usually have… You guessed it… ambulances in the vicinity. Also NSW ambulance locations are public, and I take it other states would be too
Hmm, it’s not like the physical locations have giant, unsubtle signage or anything. And noisy ambulances coming in and out. The locals definitely know where the ambulance station is.
Yeah, this is how inconspicuous they are
I didn’t even have to go hunting for it, I just drove past it in Mallacoota and thought it looked fun. Tbh that does look really easy to rob, so I can understand their point. I mean bloody hell, they must’ve spent their whole security budget on that yellow sign warning you about the cameras
I have zero clue where the Ambulance substations are in WA - other than the local one in my area. So far as I know, the ambulance services here aren’t even run by the government. The main service is provided by St John’s Ambulance, and there are private ambulance services that do some events and patient transfers.
I assume the latter sort operate out of some industrial area depot(s) somewhere.
Yep. For some reason both WA and the NT went the private ambo route. St John’s is a not for profit charity though, so I guess that makes it slightly less shit. For the most part, all the other mainland states and territories run their own Ambos, although depending on where you are there’s sometimes a fair few st John’s Ambos floating around as well.
Your EmergencyWA site doesn’t seem to show emergency stations, at least on mobile. VicEmergency shows the location of all the emergency services
Red F for fire brigade, P for police, I’m sure you get the picture. Green F is Forest Industry Brigade/Forest Fire Management Victoria. They’re an odd organisation too. They seem to mostly exist as a loose grouping of private fire engines operated by forestrys to, y’know, make sure they don’t burn down, except sometimes they also have their own apparatuses and stations and staff. Unlike AV they basically are a spy agency. Damn near impossible to find anything about them or their vehicles
St John’s has near universal acclaim in the community. I honestly never hear anything against them.
It’s not so much that the government “went the private route” as that St Johns have been providing services since the 1800’s. I just looked it up, the city ambulance service started in 1922 - over 100 years ago. So, it’s more that we already had a perfectly good ambulance service and the government has never needed to replace it.
That was not a dig on them or their staff. That was just my opinion that private health services are generally shit (shit THAT they’re privatised, and not necessarily shit as an entity).
Personally, I consider any ambulance service not run by the health department or another branch of government to be private, regardless of how long they have existed.