ladies of a certain age - or - ladies of uncertain age? Also, whatTF are you talking about?
EDIT: standard bullshit euphemism that refers to the ‘convention’ that a lady is 21 years old until her first grey hair. Then she becomes a lady of uncertain age.
Demeaning, contemptuous and should be scrubbed from the collective vocabulary. Ageism at its most rampant.
The phrase does seem to be developing that meaning - that is, adversely affected by hormone fluctuations. Still functions as a general put down. cf. on the rag, baby brain, etc. Back in my youth, it was a way to dismiss post-menopausal women from consideration, while doing a bit of ‘respect’ for their age.
To give TW some credit I have heard it used in mildly derogatory ways to classify a group of “old biddies” who are a bit over inquisitive and have too much time. I wasn’t familiar with the phrase till I heard a horticulture lecturer mention offhand how when he gave public lectures, 90% of his questions were from said group, and he could never leave on time because he’d be accosted by them afterwards asking questions about their own back yards and insisting he listen to their own anecdotal experiences…
So what have I missed, what is this in reference too?
( Ladies of certain age is what people used to call Karens. ie, older women speaking up for themselves ( the definition of karen has changed, it used to be a put down used against assertive middle aged women who were tired of sexism and ageism) )
ladies of a certain age - or - ladies of uncertain age? Also, whatTF are you talking about? EDIT: standard bullshit euphemism that refers to the ‘convention’ that a lady is 21 years old until her first grey hair. Then she becomes a lady of uncertain age.
Demeaning, contemptuous and should be scrubbed from the collective vocabulary. Ageism at its most rampant.
I thought she was referring to menopause/perimenopause…
The phrase does seem to be developing that meaning - that is, adversely affected by hormone fluctuations. Still functions as a general put down. cf. on the rag, baby brain, etc. Back in my youth, it was a way to dismiss post-menopausal women from consideration, while doing a bit of ‘respect’ for their age.
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To give TW some credit I have heard it used in mildly derogatory ways to classify a group of “old biddies” who are a bit over inquisitive and have too much time. I wasn’t familiar with the phrase till I heard a horticulture lecturer mention offhand how when he gave public lectures, 90% of his questions were from said group, and he could never leave on time because he’d be accosted by them afterwards asking questions about their own back yards and insisting he listen to their own anecdotal experiences…
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lol
LMAO even
So what have I missed, what is this in reference too?
( Ladies of certain age is what people used to call Karens. ie, older women speaking up for themselves ( the definition of karen has changed, it used to be a put down used against assertive middle aged women who were tired of sexism and ageism) )