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    5 months ago

    after bikes, do cars, and don’t forget to include pollution.

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      do cars, and don’t forget to include pollution.

      …and the health effects of lowered physical activity, social isolation, stress of long commutes in traffic, inaccessibility of vital health and social services, …and don’t forget all the externalities to supply that 2 tons of vehicle, and fuel, and roads, etc.

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      5 months ago

      Injuries requiring hospitalization per km traveled? That one is probably in car’s favor

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    TLDR:

    Most of these incidents involve males in their late 20s or early 30s, commonly sustaining head, face and limb injuries. There is consistently low helmet use in those injured. Also, about 30% of people who go to hospital with e-scooter injuries have elevated blood alcohol levels. Crashes involving riders under the influence of alcohol are associated with more severe head and face injuries.

    Once again alcohol plays its part in clogging up healthcare systems.

    I love helmets

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    Cars and trucks are linked with injuries and hospital visits [edit: and deaths] of pedestrians, cyclists and e-scooters – but let’s just blame the victim, shall we?

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      I mean. Some of them, yes. Have you watched Aus Dash Cam owners? Some of them have a bloody deathwish. Will grant you the majority seem to be doing the right thing, but certainly not all.

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        It’s not a choice between blaming the scooter or the truck driver. It’s a choice between building safe light-vehicle and pedestrian infrastructure or car-centric urban planning.

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    This wouldn’t surprise me at all, if it almost entirely be rental scooters.

    Here in Adelaide, they have these rental scooters lining the sidewalks on the nightlife strips - on the weekend!

    This seems to me to be almost criminally negligent. What do they think young people are going to do with these things, while drunk? They are going to ride them, while drunk, and they are going to have accidents, of course. Because they’re drunk.

    I like the rental scooters, as they’re a great way of getting round the city when you’re in a hurry, but they should shut them down on the weekend evenings, FFS.

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      My buddy happened upon one that was fully operational while drunk. He didn’t even pay, it was just on. He decided to go for a ride, then fuck it, why not try a wheelie? 1 broken foot later.

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      Sounds like a good case for banning cars from nightlife strips during peak activity hours.

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      I like the rental scooters, as they’re a great way of getting round the city when you’re in a hurry

      Tbh, I’m not a fan. In a vacuum they might be cool, but here in Brisbane their introduction is what encourage the Council to remove their own sharebike scheme. CityCycle wasn’t ebikes, but it also didn’t cost over $20 for a fairly short return trip. For just $2, you could take as many rides you want, up to 30 minutes each ride, for a whole 24 hours. Even buying Neuron’s 30-day passes costs 50% more than doing day-by-day on CityCycle did if you buy every single day, and over double if you take CityCycle every weekday only. And CityCycle also had cheaper options for longer-term plans.

      Plus, being docked meant CityCycles weren’t getting strewn all over footpaths, and meant you knew where you needed to go to get one. Slightly less convenient when dropping off was a more than worthwhile trade-off.

      And worst of all, Council paid for CityCycle by getting advertising billboard company JCDecaux to run it, in exchange for allowing them to put ads on footpaths and buses. And now despite CityCycle being removed, they’re still allowed to keep the ads.

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    I hate the tiny wheels on some of them. The ones with small bicycle tyres ride smoother, deal with rough terrain, and are less prone to over 90 degree steering reversals.

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    I’m never going to use a rental scooter, because whenever I would use one I don’t have access to a helmet.

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      They usually have a helmet attached.

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          I don’t know what your country is, but I’m talking about Australia, because we’re in !australia.

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            Hah, that absolutely makes sense. They should block these country-specific things from main so they don’t show up for random weirdos! Cheers!

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              Nothing wrong with foreigners showing up and even discussing what things are like in their country, IMO. Just gotta be aware that the default assumption is gonna be that we’re talking local.

              Fwiw, you’ll likely find helmets a lot more often here because we have mandatory helmet laws. Whether on a bike or an escooter, you can get in trouble for not wearing a helmet. As a law it sucks, but it has the convenient upside of meaning these scooters are basically required to have helmets available…when they don’t get stolen.