Using a simple text prompt I can immediately generate any kind of image I want. It’s not that much different than a wizard casting a spell.

Yeah, especially if Q* and other AIs can be based in mathematics so it can invent new things that actually work.

Even a simple LLM is a window into the Jungian collective unconscious at time of training, but nobody seems to talk about the philosophical implications of what we have right now.

The Age of perfect robo wives.

For normal humans yes, for those that merge not so much.

There’s websites showing how you can build technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers. I don’t know how it works or if it does but there’s a lot on it. Lucifer Faust shamanic technomagick is a book that teaches you actual magick devices you can make I believe.

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    AI isn’t magic and what we have out here isn’t even AI. It’s a freaking algorithm and they’re falling for it like the Mechanical Turk

    It’s beyond pathetic.

    Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.

    They aren’t causing an apocalypse. Capitalism is just doing what it does when a new thing comes out.

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      It’s a freaking algorithm and they’re falling for it like the Mechanical Turk

      Most people conceptualize “Artificial Intelligence” as “Machine that Acts Like A Person”. In that sense, chatbots and mechanical turks absolutely are artificial intelligence, at least as far as we’re concerned. They fit the profile, or at least they’re close enough.

      Annoying too, given the genuine concerns about these algorithms being used to push artists even further out of their livelihoods.

      My aunt loves don’t jigsaw puzzles. She brings one to Thanksgiving every year. This year, the Santa-themed art on the puzzle was… bizarre. Images melted into one another. Objects were in odd places - the Christmas tree was in the fireplace, there was a weird chandelier just floating on the ceiling of a log cabin, the feet of one of the toy wooden deer were melted wax - all over the puzzle.

      It was the picture of shoddy digitally generated imagery. But it sold just as easily as any of that other kitsch Christian disposables.

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    Yeah, especially if Q* and other AIs can be based in mathematics so it can invent new things that actually work

    These people don’t even know what machine learning means. It’s all based in maths dumbass

    Even a simple LLM is a window into the Jungian collective unconscious at time of training, but nobody seems to talk about the philosophical implications of what we have right now.

    Jordan Peterson I should have predicted this

    There’s websites showing how you can build technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers. I don’t know how it works or if it does but there’s a lot on it. Lucifer Faust shamanic technomagick is a book that teaches you actual magick devices you can make I believe.

    California was a mistake

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    I am reminded of the Internet legend that says if you retain your virginity for 30 years you become a wizard, so yes there is a lot of arcane might in those comments

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    we are living in that episode of ReBoot where Enzo meets the system clock and wishes to be the fastest smartest program on the mainframe and the system clock does this not by speeding Enzo up but by slowing everybody else wayyyy dowwwwnnnn

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      we are living in that episode of ReBoot where Enzo meets the system clock and wishes to be the fastest smartest program on the mainframe and the system clock does this not by speeding Enzo up but by slowing everybody else wayyyy dowwwwnnnn

      WE ARE HELPING WE ARE HELPING blob-no-thoughts

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    From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Omnissiah.

    40k was supposed to be satirreeeeeeeee, I scream, as the tech cultists drag me to the sacrificial altar made out of Atari 2600’s

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      i thought that video was so funny, just like everyone else. watched it tons of times and made fucking magnet jokes just like this. all these years later i still don’t really understand how magnets work lol

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        That music video led to a ton of smug response videos that actually failed to explain how magnets work, it was great.

        (Specifically they would give a basic explanation of electromagnetism, without explaining how magnets get or retain their particular charge, which is like half the goddamn question – you only get partial credit for incomplete answers!)

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          its a fun song to make fun of but for pure ignorant soundbite I always preferred “tide goes in, tide goes out. you can’t explain that!”

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    Using a simple text prompt I can immediately generate any kind of image I want. It’s not that much different than a wizard casting a spell.

    I just want to say that no, you absolutely can not do this. All you can do is designate parameters for image generations, and then when you get an image you can decide if it’s “close enough” or not. If you don’t get what I’m saying, try generating two pictures of the same character in different poses or outfits.

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    I honestly have trouble being mad at the non fash tech fetishists. The disempowering horrors of capitalism leave us desperate for salvation and technology is the one promise that capitalism has historically provided as a solution. That being said the solutions of technology under capitalism are usually implemented in some horrific monstrous way but it’s still a solution. Like I wonder how many of these people would very gratefully join a social structure that both promised and delivered change in a prosocial way with or without widgets and gadgets.

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    Isn’t this just basically like saying engineers in the middle ages were wizards? I certainly couldn’t craft a trebuchet to save my life, yet there are ‘people who are designing a machine that can transport rocks from one place to another’; it’s not much different than a wizard casting a teleportation spell!

    At what point does wishful thinking just become silliness? I couldn’t tell you how a thermostat works, but it doesn’t mean it’s a technomagick circuit that uses sigils and harnesses the power of mini-lightning to magically reduce or increase a room’s temperature.

    If this is the criteria, we’ve been at this stage of technology being indistinguishable from magic ever since man figured out how to make fire. It’s not like they understood combustion. Heck, man discovering fire would’ve been the true age of technology being indistinguishable from magic as no one on the planet could give a scientific answer for why it works; today however you can talk to an AI engineer who knows exactly why AI works the way it does.

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      We have magic stones inscribed with precise runes powered by captured lightning displaying this information across the world.

      I can agree with you and still be in awe. It makes my user experience more awesome.

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          rune and lighting are fanciful but accurate. It is a marking on stone and metal with significant meaning and it is powered by lightingsubstance

          it’s all natural and rational but describing it poetically is cool and fine

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    We are entering a brave new era of table knocking, quakery, seances, and generally buffoonery.

    I hate trying to assess what llms are even doing. Half the people who know enough about llms and “ai” don’t know anything about intelligence or language so they might have some kind of idea about what the math is doing, but they’re obviously stuck in lala land when explaining what that means in terms of cognition, or even if the stupid things can in any way manipulate abstract symbols.

    There are so many true believers, hucksters, truth seekers, snake oil salesmen, and wierdos. Now bing apparently has an integrated ai buddy and god knows what it does.

    And i’m extremely skeptical and i want nothing to do with ai “art” , and i’m worried i’ll get left behind as people jump on it and start building tools around it whether it works or not. : p

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      Half the people who know enough about llms and “ai” don’t know anything about intelligence or language so they might have some kind of idea about what the math is doing, but they’re obviously stuck in lala land when explaining what that means in terms of cognition

      as my college proffessor on machine learning used to say “AI has literally nothing to say about cognition we sometimes use the language of cognition as a metaphor but it’s not what we do here we’re statistical modelers and anyone who thinks we have anything of value to contribute to neuroscience is an arrogant moron”

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    technomagick circuits with batteries and leds and sigils / potentiometers.

    putting together a breadboard with baby’s first electronics project and calling it devil magic

    The machines didn’t get smarter we all just got way dumber