Many are uncomfortable with race based provisions in the constitution ( the fact one is already there didn’t mean we should add another - it’s an argument to remove it).
Australians don’t trust politicians or activists and need a higher standard of proof that something is going to work before putting something in the constitution forever.
While Australians are not against taking action to assist aboriginals in need (or anyone else for that matter), they are strongly committed to equality in law and in representation in the constitution. Any assistance targeted at particular groups should be accountable, specific and temporary. If an ill defined body is embedded forever and becomes untouchable no matter it’s effectiveness, this creates conditions for corruption.
Australians are practical people and are not easily moved by rhetoric.
Australians will resist moralizing and condescension.
Australians are tired of lip service, committees and reports saying the same thing.
What I find very disappointing about the Yes campaign and some yes voters is that they have taken no responsibility for the loss. There doesn’t seem to be any consideration of the possibility that the Voice was not the best idea, or any consideration that the campaigning for it was poor. Instead everyone who voted no is branded as racist or dumb . There is an arrogance here which has ultimately led to what is shaping up to be a crushing defeat, and unfortunately this arrogance continues post mortem. Nor does there seem to be much respect for the will of the people, which the outcome of this referendum represents.
What I would expect the government to say at this point : “We fucked up and we take accountability. We ran a very needless, damaging and divisive referendum. We need to find a better way to address the gap that involves the government actually doing their job, starting Monday”.
Instead everyone who voted no is branded as racist or dumb
I hated the idea and don’t think it was useful for anything than opening dialogue.
But opening dialogue could have been done other ways.
I voted yes because it’s another step.
First Nations people already have voting and political rights, they have equal treatment under law and equal access to government monies. I want them to use that to the fullest extent possible.
If it were me and I was in government I would ask what kind of lives they want and I would provide the opportunities for them to achieve that. For each person .
As were most people who voted no. Many just have a different vision of what is good for society. Being a democracy we have to accept that there will always be diversity in belief and opinion about society, even when we vehemently disagree.
You lost all credibility at “aborigines”. You know this is 2023, right? Unfortunately most Australians are motivated by rhetoric fed to them by Murdoch.
The majority no vote reflects a few things:
What I find very disappointing about the Yes campaign and some yes voters is that they have taken no responsibility for the loss. There doesn’t seem to be any consideration of the possibility that the Voice was not the best idea, or any consideration that the campaigning for it was poor. Instead everyone who voted no is branded as racist or dumb . There is an arrogance here which has ultimately led to what is shaping up to be a crushing defeat, and unfortunately this arrogance continues post mortem. Nor does there seem to be much respect for the will of the people, which the outcome of this referendum represents.
What I would expect the government to say at this point : “We fucked up and we take accountability. We ran a very needless, damaging and divisive referendum. We need to find a better way to address the gap that involves the government actually doing their job, starting Monday”.
I hated the idea and don’t think it was useful for anything than opening dialogue.
But opening dialogue could have been done other ways.
I voted yes because it’s another step.
First Nations people already have voting and political rights, they have equal treatment under law and equal access to government monies. I want them to use that to the fullest extent possible.
If it were me and I was in government I would ask what kind of lives they want and I would provide the opportunities for them to achieve that. For each person .
I think most people who voted Yes were well meaning.
As were most people who voted no. Many just have a different vision of what is good for society. Being a democracy we have to accept that there will always be diversity in belief and opinion about society, even when we vehemently disagree.
Agreed but unfortunately social media in particular brings out a special kind of viciousness in people.
And good people are intimidated into saying nothing
Agreed on every point
You lost all credibility at “aborigines”. You know this is 2023, right? Unfortunately most Australians are motivated by rhetoric fed to them by Murdoch.
ALL credibility? That’s a bit extreme.
Unfortunately this is exactly the kind of nastiness and personal attacks that came out on social media, and some yes voters wondered why they lost.