• Seagoon_
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    7 hours ago

    They are the ones making abortion and trans rights an issue, they are screwing up the lives of Australians.

    we have the choice to ignore them and follow our own issues

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          6 hours ago

          @Seagoon_

          So trans people being attacked because of americancer is their choice?

          So transphobic attacks are the choice of transgender people?

          So victims of assaults are to blame for the assault?

          Your words. Go back to the 50’s.

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            The US and Russia are both cancers on this earth, Russia has bots that post anti-trans, anti-lgbtqa+, anti-women, racist shite, and the US laps it up.

            I agree with you on this. This is all so fucked up.

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              The bots are so bad.

              You can tell when it’s a bot. They never offer solutions. They only offer hate and division. They never look for conciliation or understanding. It’s us and them. Victim and transgressor. There is no nuance, no history. They are quick to accuse, stereotype and name call.

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              @StudChud
              We’re much more connected to the US than RU and even CN.
              We have US “talking heads” here from the US as well. Alas, all propaganda has some effect.

              I transitioned over 15 years ago and had no issue. I fit into society perfectly well… until trump. That’s where I lay the majority of the blame. I had ONE transphobe in some 14 years. Now my life is at risk.

              Of course certain politicians here are reading from his playbook and we have certain groups here that are US RWNJ’s.

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                Oh yeah, agre on this too. We are deffo more influenced by the US. I just wanted to make a point that Russian bots have added fuel to the flame the US started.

                It’s fucking disgusting how many human rights they are rolling back, for women, lgbtqa+, PoCs. Anyone who isn’t a white fundie Christian supporting project 25 is at risk there, and therefore so are we.

                Trump, his administration, they want Israel and Palestine to go off properly, to fufill the end days prophecies (which is fucked, revelations was a political piece about how Nero (iirc) was a shithead and would fuck society up, it wasn’t an actual prophecy, it was allegory and metaphor).

                I’m sorry things are getting harder for you, I loathe how much of that hateful far right rhetoric affects and kills our own fellow Australians. It’s a fucked up situation

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                  @StudChud I hope it changes very quickly as the US changes.
                  RU is even paying bots in the US, they just don’t know who employs them.

                  People are worried SSM maybe even be rolled back.
                  I have seen people are getting their ID’s updated, getting married and there’s even a “railroad” of volunteers out of the US into Canada now.

                  Thank you for your kind words.
                  It really does suck, more for those in the US and I hope people come to their senses before it’s too late.

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                    @StudChud
                    I don’t know how much of what they plan will pass.

                    Even if they just neuter the agencies they want to remove it will take a generation to recover and repair the damage.

                    We need to get away from the US and realise our position in our Australasian neighborhood.

                    We’re going to have to re-negotiate trade deals but it’s something that’s possible. Hopefully our bottom line doesn’t hurt too much.

                    I dread to think what is going to happen in the Middle East. It won’t stop with occupation.

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            Why do you lie so much . Stop putting words in my mouth. Lying is a hateful act.

            Show me exactly where I wrote what you said?

            It’s Australia’s choice to follow the news about the prejudices of America and the choice of foolish and misguided and even hateful people to act on those prejudices. We could choose to be ourselves, we could choose to report and focus on many European countries and aspire to have many of the same social policies.

            But I think the main reason American news and social movements, for the good and bad, are reported on and followed are because we share the same language, English.

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              @Seagoon_
              Your words. Don’t blame me for them. Taste a bit off do they? I’d hope so.

              You said it’s my choice whether the crap out of the US affects me or not.
              No, I don’t choose the actions of others.

              So you try to blame me… that’s ironic considering that’s what you just did minutes ago.

              You can try to repackage it but people can read what you typed… unless you delete it.

              As for me, I am blocking you, I don’t want transphobes in my life. You can blame me for that too if you want.

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                Nobody here has offered hate to you. You’re choosing to interpret simple facts in that light. Australia and USA diverge on many topics, and no: we don’t blindly follow their policies on anything.

                While the rhetoric in their media has been ghastly on trans issues this past decade, I have not seen that mirrored in Australia. There is no debate raging in parliament over dunnies or drag queens reading. In fact, when some loonies tried to protest such an event here, it didn’t go well for them. We even had a drag queen come read to my kid’s class. Fully supported by the school.

                Yes, we are culturally influenced by the US, but we don’t blindly follow them. If the US were a paragon of Trans rights, there would still be dozens of nations around the world where trans people are persecuted. We don’t need to be fixated on any of these countries or their politics. We can (and do) go out own way.

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                  @[email protected]
                  The police call it a hate crime, what do you call it, an offer of love taps?
                  I am interpreting ASSAULT am I?

                  Get fucked. Interpret that however you want

                  Just because you have not seen something happen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen and don’t you dare tell me what it is like to live my life.
                  How very mansplaining of you.

                  I am not even going to bother. You’re arrogant and ignorant.
                  Blocked.