cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13929272

So, what’s the take away here ? make it so expensive to live people choose cycling and we get better cities ?

  • tombruzzo
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    3 months ago

    It sucks people feel the need to ride their bike out of necessity. But riding is the best way to get around when the infrastructure is there.

    Riding feels so good when you’re on a nice path with a flat run. You get the same connection with the world around you as walking, but you move faster without the hassle of traffic

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    3 months ago

    We are a lo g way from good cycling infrastructure here. There are a few well connected suburbs but most places its dangerous to be cycling on the roads because of the yank tanks

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        3 months ago

        Isn’t Australia still a country where bikes are sold as sporting goods alongside cricket bats and gym mats, rather than as practical devices one would use in everyday life?

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          3 months ago

          Because they’re not practical devices one can use in everyday life here? If you can’t safely travel with it, it’s not a practical means of transport.

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            3 months ago

            I disagree. I ride 10-12km to work and 10-12 km home practically daily. Because I understand people lie on the Internet all the time, here are my Strava cycling stats to show I’m telling the truth:

            I cycled daily when I lived in Queensland. I cycled less often (because I’m a wuss about riding in the rain) but still regularly when I lived in Melbourne. And I cycle almost every day in Perth. The last four weeks actually really low for me - between the wet weather and having a holiday in September, my numbers are down. It would usually be 10 rides per week.

            To answer @[email protected]’s question: You can often buy bikes next to the sporting equipment in some stores (cycling is a sport, after all). These are terrible though, and people who really use their bikes get them at dedicated bike stores - which are very common in Australia.

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      2 months ago

      …dangerous to be cycling on the roads because of the yank tanks mad cunts on the roads

      Fixed it for you

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    3 months ago

    There needs to be both the carrot and the stick. Cycling has to get easier (better infrastructure) and driving has to get harder (expensive, traffic, etc). Together these drive behaviour change

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    3 months ago

    Bikes are only a small part of the picture. Infrastructure needs huge changes for bikes to be safe and we need to incentivise small vehicles like Kei cars and small cheap electric personal transport instead of going in the other direction. Not everyone is physically able to ride a bike and it can be challenging for those that can in some conditions such as heatwaves.

    Virtue signalling hipsters on cargo bikes that cost more than a budget used car don’t necessarily have all the answers. Still need to pay rego and service that car you use to drive the kids in the heat and rain when the ABC aren’t watching.

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    3 months ago

    I don’t believe this is happening on a wide scale. I would love to see it. Living in a city with cycling infrastructure like we’ve been seeing in some European cities would truly be a joy.

    We’re a super keen cycling household, with more bikes than people. The kids and I ride to school/work routinely and have done pretty much all our lives. Even we can’t get rid of the car. Sometimes, it is just necessary.

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    3 months ago

    The Urban Arrow cargo bike is available in different models, such as the Family and the Shorty. And business models such as the Cargo and the Tender. The price of an Urban Arrow cargo bike varies depending on the model and configuration. Generally, prices for the Urban Arrow Family, one of the most popular models, are somewhere between €5000,- and €7800,-. This can vary based on factors such as the chosen colour, accessories, and specific model variants.

    https://servicecenter.urbanarrow.com/en/what-does-an-urban-arrow-cost

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    3 months ago

    Just imaging how much pollution this bikes on road generates, it would be way better if they continue driving.