I’ve driven one, the learning curve isn’t steep, it’s fairly logical. the person who wrote this I think is maybe just really bad at adapting to new situations.
My dad and I once sat in the cabin of a push to start vehicle for 20 whole minutes before admitting defeat and walking back to the rental office and asking how to start the car. If an action is completely alien/illogical to you, it’s not a matter of being bad at adapting, you’ll just never get it.
In this case we needed 3 actions done correctly: fob in dock, brake pressed down (even though its in park) and hold the start button down for longer than 2 secs. It was the last step that really screwed us around
Bruh, I’ve driven a manual pretty much all my life. Always handbrake on, foot on brake, wiggle to make sure in neutral, fire it up.
Got a manual in the US -same make/model i had in Aus- and couldn’t start it.
Had to depress the clutch. Gear/neutral didn’t matter. No clutch in, no ignition.
Had to go get help. The bloke looked at me like I was an idiot and asked if I’d driven a stick before. Meanwhile I’m looking at him like he’s an idiot wondering why neutral means you need to hit the clutch.
Somehow I still ended up feeling embarrassed. But he must have been surprised about how I got out of the parking lot without stalling or -with the accent- without kangaroo hopping down the street.
Clutch down is how I’ve always started manuals. I’m not even sure if my current car works the way you were used to or the way your American car worked, but tbh I suspect the latter. It’s not an American car, either.
Interesting 🤔… I actually have never started a car in neutral, as far as I am aware, but yeah I would had the same issue as I would have expected it to work without the clutch in. (not form the US).
Now not sure if my car would work as in the US or as I expected and just turn on anyway without the clutch in.
I could understand the clutch in requirement. So you don’t leap forward starting it in gear.
Was taught to start a car under minimal load; no A/C, no heat, no lights, no wipers etc. And clutch normally involves hydraulics, so neutral means minimising trans load too.
But also, I’ve been in situations where people drive cars after the clutch has failed. 2nd gear, fire it up, then it’s all about rev matching for changing gears 😆. AFAICT, you couldn’t do it with the US ECU setup…
Mine needs you to press the start button with a foot on the brake, but if you press either pedal, the start button, or attempt to shift to drive you get a message on the screen telling you what you’re supposed to do. So it’s simple to figure out by just trying something.
So are a lot of people. My parents recently bought a new vehicle and while I can figure it out, it is often needlessly complicated and confusing for people who aren’t used to all the tech.
I’ve driven one, the learning curve isn’t steep, it’s fairly logical. the person who wrote this I think is maybe just really bad at adapting to new situations.
My dad and I once sat in the cabin of a push to start vehicle for 20 whole minutes before admitting defeat and walking back to the rental office and asking how to start the car. If an action is completely alien/illogical to you, it’s not a matter of being bad at adapting, you’ll just never get it.
In this case we needed 3 actions done correctly: fob in dock, brake pressed down (even though its in park) and hold the start button down for longer than 2 secs. It was the last step that really screwed us around
Bruh, I’ve driven a manual pretty much all my life. Always handbrake on, foot on brake, wiggle to make sure in neutral, fire it up.
Got a manual in the US -same make/model i had in Aus- and couldn’t start it.
Had to depress the clutch. Gear/neutral didn’t matter. No clutch in, no ignition.
Had to go get help. The bloke looked at me like I was an idiot and asked if I’d driven a stick before. Meanwhile I’m looking at him like he’s an idiot wondering why neutral means you need to hit the clutch.
Somehow I still ended up feeling embarrassed. But he must have been surprised about how I got out of the parking lot without stalling or -with the accent- without kangaroo hopping down the street.
Clutch down is how I’ve always started manuals. I’m not even sure if my current car works the way you were used to or the way your American car worked, but tbh I suspect the latter. It’s not an American car, either.
Interesting 🤔… I actually have never started a car in neutral, as far as I am aware, but yeah I would had the same issue as I would have expected it to work without the clutch in. (not form the US).
Now not sure if my car would work as in the US or as I expected and just turn on anyway without the clutch in.
I could understand the clutch in requirement. So you don’t leap forward starting it in gear.
Was taught to start a car under minimal load; no A/C, no heat, no lights, no wipers etc. And clutch normally involves hydraulics, so neutral means minimising trans load too.
But also, I’ve been in situations where people drive cars after the clutch has failed. 2nd gear, fire it up, then it’s all about rev matching for changing gears 😆. AFAICT, you couldn’t do it with the US ECU setup…
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Mine needs you to press the start button with a foot on the brake, but if you press either pedal, the start button, or attempt to shift to drive you get a message on the screen telling you what you’re supposed to do. So it’s simple to figure out by just trying something.
Holding the start button is weird.
So are a lot of people. My parents recently bought a new vehicle and while I can figure it out, it is often needlessly complicated and confusing for people who aren’t used to all the tech.
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