compulsory voting removes some of the apathy: “they’re both the same” isn’t as powerful to stop people (and let’s be honest here, this tactic works best against progressives) getting out to vote if they’re already at the polling place… it virtually eliminates voter suppression
I’m sorry but “voter suppression” isn’t a thing, especially when something as logical and simple as “have ID to prove you have the right to vote” is constantly called “voter suppression”.
that absolutely is voter suppression… voter fraud is not a real problem. if it were, sure! let’s do ID… but the fact is, it just doesn’t happen: the only way to actually move the needle is large scale voter fraud, and the systems in place absolutely catch that… a single vote (as much as we say your vote counts: it does, but more figuratively) doesn’t matter 1 bit
because getting an ID with no money and no fixed address can be somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible
that’s kinda the point: ID is easy for most people, but for some people it’s an insurmountable barrier… voter ID laws restrict those people’s ability to vote: the number of legitimate people you cut out of voting is far higher than the number of fraudulent votes (which are always caught after the fact because there are robust systems in place to deal with exactly this already)
compulsory voting removes some of the apathy: “they’re both the same” isn’t as powerful to stop people (and let’s be honest here, this tactic works best against progressives) getting out to vote if they’re already at the polling place… it virtually eliminates voter suppression
I’m sorry but “voter suppression” isn’t a thing, especially when something as logical and simple as “have ID to prove you have the right to vote” is constantly called “voter suppression”.
that absolutely is voter suppression… voter fraud is not a real problem. if it were, sure! let’s do ID… but the fact is, it just doesn’t happen: the only way to actually move the needle is large scale voter fraud, and the systems in place absolutely catch that… a single vote (as much as we say your vote counts: it does, but more figuratively) doesn’t matter 1 bit
If voter fraud isn’t a real problem then you should have no issue making sure it can’t happen.
i have no issue making sure it “can’t happen” - a non-issue regardless - to give people warm and fuzzy feelings
i do take issue with making it harder to vote for some of societies most vulnerable
The whole “vulnerable people” line is complete bullshit lol.
i guess homeless people don’t deserve a vote aye
Why can’t homeless people vote?
because getting an ID with no money and no fixed address can be somewhere between extremely difficult and impossible
that’s kinda the point: ID is easy for most people, but for some people it’s an insurmountable barrier… voter ID laws restrict those people’s ability to vote: the number of legitimate people you cut out of voting is far higher than the number of fraudulent votes (which are always caught after the fact because there are robust systems in place to deal with exactly this already)