The “Words of Iron” app gives zionists one centralized hub to promote posts that support Israel by increasing their engagement (including by pasting pre-written comments) while directing users to anti-zionist posts to report in an effort to get the post or the poster removed from the internet. It’s a zionist brigading app.

Archived “Words of Iron” site

Medium article by the devs

  • KiraChats [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    Twitch recently indefinitely suspended me (full time streamer for the past 7 years) for “sharing extensive content related to terrorist or violent extremist groups” so while I’ve been fighting that, I’ve been digging into the ways that zionists are manipulating social media platforms and algorithms to their benefit (and to our detriment).

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      their greatest (and laziest) weapon seems to be fucking with people’s livelihoods like that.

      silencing anyone with a platform. i hope you can win your fight!

      red-fist

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      wait this made me look up your username and i had no idea you had changed it or that you were anywhere near this based. i was in your discord for a bit lmao

      • KiraChats [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        haha no way! You’re always welcome to join our server again, my linktree is in my bio.

        btw I appreciate the compliment. My community and I have evolved quite a bit over the past several years. Growing politically in public (from centrist edgelord --> anti-imperialist communist) as a woman has also garnered me a TON of harassment from the usual douchey suspects, hence the current Twitch ban I’m fighting.

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          big discord servers just feel like twitter or something to me, doesn’t work too well for me tbh. i hope everything’s chill in there though!

          yeah idk, maybe i caught you somewhere in the middle of that transition? i watched a few of your streams where you seemed cool but maybe a bit lib or something, forgot about your existence and moved on. last thing i expected was to run into you on hexbear lmao

          and yeah, being a woman on the internet has probably improved in my lifetime but it still looks like it sucks. shit, i still see my male friends get harassed in online games for having usernames that could conceivably belong to a woman

        • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          oh shit, I watched a couple of your streams way back when. I think you were still in your edgier phase so this is the last place I expected to find you. if you find a new place to stream, make a post about it here - I’m sure others would appreciate it too. cat-trans

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            You’re so sweet! Tbh I don’t know if there’s a future for me in streaming. Streaming these days feels so uncomfortable for me since so much of my income at this point comes from the same people whose voices im trying to amplify. Plus the CONSTANT harassment campaigns (usually launched by the same fashy people I used to run with back in my edgier days). Plus McCarthyism (like the ban I’m fighting rn). Plus the nonstop sexism. I’m tired.

          • KiraChats [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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            This is what we call a “sexist harassment campaign” (this one launched by the likes of Ethan Klein, Pewdiepie, and Moistcritikal to get easy incel clicks because I made a joke) and you’re participating in it. Cool that this is even following me here when I’m trying to share my experiences with harassment, cool cool.

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                I’m not sexist, I don’t like twitch streamers just to be clear. I feel slighted that the majority of the content in my post was ignored.

                I don’t have any context for the video, I didn’t know anything about it before I started digging. Again, I don’t like twitch streamers, not watching or following their dramas obviously checks out. So put to that to rest please, I’m not a sexist.

                But I do find the parasocial relationships and hierarchical nature of twitch streaming toxic and I like this community because neither of those things exist here.

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                  Not having any context and not doing more digging before posting the first link that confirms your bias is not a good excuse. I hope I don’t have to explain why. You posted a video that was created by sexist chuds to harass OP. Whether or not you intended for it to be sexist harassment is immaterial, it was and sharing here furthers that harassment.

                  You seem like an otherwise good-faith comrade, so I am urging you to stop and reflect why policing a fellow community member for being a streamer is weird-bolshevik

                  Edit: lmao nvm, I hope you get the gamer-gulag

                • KiraChats [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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                  “I’m not sexist I just do sexist things so put that to rest please I’m not sexist”

                  And now you’ve been now complaining about me in other unrelated threads? Wtf??? Blocking you.

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      Zionists got so mad that leftists could post better than them so theyre buying clicks.

      This is literally just people who buy clicks. They’re just avoiding the bot farm ban hammer because they can use fash failchildren zionists instead of bots.

      The actual idea itself is just the result of disgusting techbro startup culture that is the Israeli tech field.

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      points to hexbear dot net

      Post a link to whatever it is that needs the attention, give some context in your post as to what the issue is that needs to be addressed and then let us piggies do our thing.

      • What_Religion_R_They [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        and then let us piggies do our thing

        you fuckers don’t do shit just whine in the comments in the_dunk_tank and don’t touch the actual stuff that’s posted. Not that I do anything either, so I’m one to talk, but still

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      Shit like this doesn’t work. It’s incredibly easy to sus out, which is why most zoomers reflexively reject Israeli claims. If anything it just makes your position seem even weaker.

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    I edit in Wikipedia. The pro Israeli brigading is fucking painful. You can’t get in one discussion without 7 other random editors jumping in to chime in to say that Al Jazeera is a biased news source or that a Twitter post disproved that point.

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      I fully agree with you, but we’d be banned off the platform in a matter is days. Brigading is only OK when it serves the current power structure.

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        Which is why you do everything you can to make it look like an organic build up. Something that’s easier to do when you have an organized platform like this vs just dropping random links in the dunktank without even anonymizing referrals.

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          Ya true. Like they made BDS illegal, I’m sure they’d make social media campaigns illegal. I feel bad as the poster above has a good idea, I just don’t trust our social system to be fair.

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      Same, we need to employ propaganda more effectively. I don’t like things like this, but the mainstream narrative is always against us and we should take any opportunity to offset that even slightly.

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        the mainstream narrative is always against us and we should take any opportunity to offset that even slightly.

        this

        This is one of the ways how the mainstream narrative is built. Organize means much more than Unions, it means using the tools we have available to us to build a united front in advancing our goals. One of which should most definitely be fighting their propaganda and the consent manufacturing that makes it easier for them to commit social murder on us. Oh, and in this case, literal Genocide.

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      They already reflexively dismiss anything leftist as “putlerbots” or whatever, why would you do the thing that they accuse you of doing to dismiss you. This is such a dumb idea. The existence of this app has probably done more to harm Israel’s credibility than the millions of half-assed pro Israel comments would’ve done to boost it.

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        Every special interest group that has any sort of real money backing them has some sort of variation on this concept. Heck, volunteering with political candidates will have you doing a variation on the concept, but heaven forbid we organize to actual bring the truth to people.

        And data-laughing if you think the average person online but us gives a shit or thinks about this for more than a minute. This has been going on for decades now. I’m sure this is what’s destroying Israel’s reputation. Definitely not the genocide.

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          They’ve been doing a genocide since 1948. Anyone with a brain can see the IDF tiktok thirst traps are propaganda. Israel being so blatantly bad at propaganda in the modern era makes a big difference imo. For zoomers being anti-Israel isn’t some niche leftist thing anymore, it’s been the default for quite a while, since way before oct 7.

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      If you’re ever driving around and see a way-too-big house, take note of the address. You can use the single free lookup from property-shark to see who owns it and cross-reference the name to linkedin and other spots.

      I once found the Saudi education minister’s home when looking at giant mansions in the DC area from google maps.

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        Tried this on the biggest house in the neighborhood and found the home of the guy that owns a giant warehouse sales chain with his name attached.

        Advice to prople who try it: mailinator.com is good for short-term disposable email addresses useful for one-time sign-ins like this, and property shark only verifies with email, so you can fake all of the other required fields

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    Words of Iron? How about Hearts of Iron now excuse me while I go get all my divisions fucking encircled because fucking Romania is buffed to shit for some shitty-ass reason fuck the forum users fucking nazis

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    Brigading is a made up redditor concept used by people who are mad that people from outside their echo chamber show up. Whatever this is shouldn’t be conflated with that.

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      I wonder if you could just use Words of Iron to counteract it. Report their posts and boost the posts they dislike. If anything it gives the game away because they’re demonstrating which posts get under their skin.

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      1. Please don’t conflate Israel and “Jews.” Zionists control the mainstream news, not the Jews. Zionists control the US government, not the Jews. Most Zionists are Christians, especially in the United States.

      2. Zionism has always leaned into antisemitic tropes because it is a fundamentally antisemitic ideology so this is by design and they hope that casual observers will conflate Zionists actions with Jews generally to increase global antisemitism.

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          No worries. In a world saturated with Zionist language it’s hard to not accidentally step in it sometimes.

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        For a laymen who has been grouping them together can you please explain the difference between jews and zionists? I am more specifically curious what the association is between zionism and neo nazis since this thread seems to agree there is a relationship between the two.

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          If you want to hear a really good breakdown of the history of Judaism and the evolution of Zionism and the creation of Jewish Zionism, Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro is much more in depth than me https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/committing-high-reason/id1549088377?i=1000616323210 And the specific fascist connection https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/committing-high-reason/id1549088377?i=1000585480685

          And that’s, of course, a peak at the book he wrote about Zionism as Jewish identity theft, but here is the two-cent version:

          Judaism is a religion and Zionism is a political ideology. Jews represent the entire spectrum of the human experience, including the spectrum of political opinions. Zionists believe (or at least claim) the the State of Israel is the state and government of all Jews all over the world, that jews are entitled to the land by right of birth, and ultimately that all Jews should live there and nowhere else.

          Longer version.

          Jewish religion identifies certain people as Jews. According to the Jewish religion, the one god, who has a specific name so we call him HaShem (the name), gave the people who left Egypt during the exodus the Torah. These people were dubbed the Jews who were therefore “chosen” to fulfill the laws of the Torah. The laws of the Torah require these chosen people to obey 613 commandments while all others only have to obey 7. When all people on earth live by these commandments, HaShem will literally physically return to restore his terrestrial kingdom in Jerusalem with the resurrected King David sitting at his side.

          The Jewish religion identifies the Jewish people as those who received HaShem’s laws at Mt. Sanai, their matrilineal descendants, and anyone who duly converts to the religion and their matrilineal descendants. The Jewish religion has been practiced by people all over the world for thousands of years. There are major Jewish ethnicities from certain places but prior to the adoption of Zionism by certain Jews in the late nineteenth century, Jews did not consider themselves separate political entities from the societies they inhabited nor did they consider themselves part of any united political entity with Jews from other countries.

          Zionism is a political ideology that posits that there should be a state in the Levant that is specifically the “Jewish State.” The Zionist ideology necessarily posits that the Jewish people are a race or nation in the sense of modern political nationalism. That this nation needs a political entity and a piece of territory from which it can operate on behalf of all Jewish people, as defined by the state. It’s hard at this point not to draw the direct line between the European nationalist movements that otherwise collapsed in the 1940s (a German State for the German People, a French State for the French people, an English state for the English people, and a Jewish state for the Jewish people).

          For hundreds of years, the ideology was more or less exclusively seen within Western European Protestant communities. The pilgrims at Plymouth, who thought of themselves as new hebrews, were Zionists. The Protestant idea of Zionism rests upon the reading of the New Testament as a prophecy that once the Jews reconquer Israel, the second coming of Jesus will occur. At which point the Jews will either convert to Christianity or die.

          In the 19th century, particularly in Britain, Germany, and the US, this Protestant vision of the bringing of the end times was combined with European nationalism in part to explain the existence of all the Jews whose presence in all these countries undermined nationalist dogma and, in any case, served as a perfect “other” to hone the “nation” in each country.

          At this time a group of assimilated, secular, western Jews adopted Zionism in its nationalist sense and, because of their secular background/sometimes on purpose, with a misunderstanding of Jewish religious traditions about the holy land and the present relationship between the land and the Jews. This Jewish movement gained a lot of momentum, in part because of the overwhelming support of western governments which were Zionist prior to Jewish Zionism. Because of the shared ideology with nationalism, the Jewish Zionists found common cause with fascist movements, particularly in Mussolini’s Italy, but also in Germany itself, including major Nazi organizations such as the SS — Adolph Eichmann spoke at his trial about all of the assistance he gave Zionist Jews to get to Palestine before the British government stopped letting him do so. The British were trying to militarily manage the pressure cooker they created by establishing the Jewish mandate in 1918 and officially kicking off a period of violent settler colonialism all during the escalation of a war with Germany at that time.

          Many of the militant bridges during the Mandatory Palestine era were directly tied to fascist military organizations in Axis countries. Importantly, and this is what one of those pods above goes into, the founders of the organizations that would evolve into the current governing party, Likud, were directly trained and equipped by fascist state organizations with whom they shared a driving political philosophy. In all, the fact that the language used by the current government of the state of Israel sounds like it came out of a national socialist pamphlet is not some weird “time is a flat circle” thing. The modern movement within the state was founded by literal, historical, national socialists.

          -typed with my thumbs, pls forgive typos