Peter Navarro wants to increase pressure on country that Donald Trump has threatened to annex

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      He’s gained valuable experience, he’s an integral member of Trump’s inner circle.

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      Oh that was happening the second Trump used Putin’s exact lines about the Ukraine war and put a person in charge of our intelligence that’s widely seen as a Russian asset.

      This will just make it happen faster.

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    I’d hazard to guess that they got wind that other four are thinking of kicking out the USA and are trying to get ahead of it.

    The Five Eyes are supposed to be a bulwark against Russia and, later, terrorists. Now that the USA is aligning with Russia, sharing intel with them doesn’t seem like such a good idea.

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      Most members aren’t allowed to spy on their own citizens without things like warrants. So they spy on the other members citizens and then share the info.

      It’s basically a way around citizen rights.

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        So the question becomes, like so many others, are the benefits worth the risks? Being able to collect information on your citizens without saying you do by helping closely aligned countries do the same appears to have been worth the risk to the leaders of those (and other) countries. Doing that while also providing info about your allies to someone who isn’t considered an ally or who they may be wary of is a different proposition.

        I’d be happier if a lot of things could happen, including spying on your neighbors, or engaging in quid pro quo to provide a fig leaf on the idea of spying on your own citizens, but I imagine that isn’t going to happen for a good long while.

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      I am sorry to tell you but it is going to be that way for much longer than four years, not that I think Trump will last more than four years he may but that is a question for later. I do however see the next administration holding a grudge against Canada for a much longer time as we do more to avoid the US as they have shown to be a less than favourable partner.

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        The survival of US democracy is dependent on whether Trump croaks before his term is up. If he’s still alive when his term is up, he’s not leaving. Then that’s the end of US democracy and either it’s a civil war or they become an authoritarian regime with a slow decline. In which case, yeah they’ll be and adversary for Canada for decades.

        But if he doesn’t last the term (he’s old and not all that healthy) my guess is JD Vance lacks the popularity to make authoritarianism stick and will either be voted out or there’d be a coup if he tries to quash democracy. Whoever replaces him would not want to continue the failed policies of that regime.

        So it all depends on how long the Fanta Menace lives for.

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          Yes however if he crocks prior to his 4 year term is up, the die hard MAGA crowd will believe he was murdered. If you think JD will get to be president I have a story to tell you, he will not be president it will be Musk.

          Musk will gut the government even more than he has already, Musk’s baby shield has already told Trump he is not president. Some people have claimed that Teil will become president as he is running things from behind but Musk has been in front of the people and will have an easier time becoming the dick, or I mean dictator.

          Elections are a thing of the past in the US, if Trump makes it through his four years or not.

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      These links are made in a way where they can just be dropped every 4 years. This is going to be lasting damage.

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    Don’t threaten us with a good time. Snowden’s leaks unveiled just how shady and corrupt this agreement is.

    Also does the US even have an intelligence sector any more? Or have they all been fired and replaced with toe-sucking morons?

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        Can’t, sorry, I’m sure the Prime Minister would be removed again by your Governor-General if you tried :/

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          that’s … not really how that works

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    US intelligence agencies are now entirely compromised by the actions of Don QHoaxer de la Maga. Any data received by them will be swiftly traded off to unfriendly powers, while any data from them will be so riddled with disinformation as to be useless.

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      And even when Trump is gone, the American people have shown their commitment to electing fascists so the USA should be considered untrustworthy for decades to come.

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      Not even getting good value in trade. Just get dinner at Mar A Lago, and use the bathroom in back of the jacuzzi or whatever.

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      With Tulsi Gabbard as the US Director of National Intelligence, how much do we want to leak to Russia?

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            I am joking but that’s how Tulsi sees the situation.

            Ukraine is about to be fucked over so hard that it will be a chapter in history books what happens when a smaller nation tries to stand tall and gets ganged up on by nuclear powers.

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      Australia and New Zealand, who Russia doesn’t really care about.

      This president has been such a disgrace to the intelligence community.

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          Australia and NZ are in a difficult position. From the day European’s arrived they have been aligned to the world’s dominant sea power. Both are remote and reliant on sea trade. I don’t know that we have the mental flexibility to change. More likely we will negotiate with the Whitehouse to get the best we can out of things under the circumstances. I wouldn’t expect major political parties here to publicly oppose Trump except on long established foreign policy like support of Ukraine. I wouldn’t mistake lack of protest with acceptance.

          The countries with the most self-interest in securing our sea trade are China, Japan and South Korea for their food, energy and raw materials, not the USA. US is a net exporter to us but a lot of it is financial, services/IP and I think their commitment is somewhat less than it was post WW2.

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      New plan: we all kick out the US and we’ll invite most of the rest of the friendly countries name it the one-hundred thirty-eyes and we’ll have blackjack and hookers.

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    Don’t worry folk, we have more than enough experience at this.

    America’s intelligence gathering apparatus is essentially the creation of Canada.

    the first commandant was Lt. Col. Arthur Terence Roper-Caldbeck.[9] Colonel William “Wild Bill” Donovan, war-time head of the OSS, credited Stephenson with teaching Americans about foreign intelligence gathering.[6] The CIA even named their recruit training facility “The Farm”, a nod to the original farm that existed at the Camp X site.[10]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_X

    He is best known by his wartime intelligence code name, Intrepid. Many people consider him to be one of the real-life inspirations for James Bond.[1] Ian Fleming himself once wrote, “James Bond is a highly romanticised version of a true spy. The real thing is… William Stephenson.”[2]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stephenson

    For further reading, check out the book, “A Man Called Intrepid”

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      They’ve not forgotten about NORAD, and I wish I could say more than that, but I would get people in trouble if I did.

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        If you truly know something which you are not allowed to speak publicly about, you may be in a position to “do something” with that information.

        Godspeed, and I hope I never hear about your exploits.

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    Just a report on beyond the scenes chatter from within Trump’s inner circle.