Self-declared sovereign citizens, who believe Australia’s laws do not apply to them, are having a serious impact on the family court, experts say

Kind of odd to me becase even if you do believe this, the judicial institutions have armed police and jails on their side and you have your thumbprint, (unkess your name is Train I guess, which was a whole other thing) seems a losing battle from the get go? Whats the upside ?

  • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.org
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    9 days ago

    Yeah, it makes them very conflicted figures to me. They’re often quite antisocial (not in the shy sense, in the parasitically harm society sense) and self-oriented. Something in the law comes up and it defies their will and they melt down. At the same time, they’re closer to understanding the contradictions in our society than many of the people who never noticed how bullshit the justification for a lot of our laws are.

    Like it really rarely comes up that someone is trying to use sovcit arguments to make the state feed school kids, or house homeless people. It’s almost always someone that wants to park like an arsehole or avoid paying childsupport.

    Complex feelings, I do wonder if there are people teetering on the edge of their bullshit that might he sympathetic to a more hollistic and pro-social critque of the justice system.

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      In a way, they’re closer, but in another way they’re further - they are so trusting in the law that it’s their chosen weapon of resisting laws they consider unjust. It’s an individualist ultraliberalism, doubling down on the delusion when they notice contradictions, but perhaps it provides a potential moment of radicalization when their faith in the law is shaken by bad experiences with police. And I hope (blindly) that ends up driving some of them towards the left than towards neo-Nazism, who have intentionally targeted the anti-vaxx movement for recruitment with very mixed results.