Last month, Housing Minister Clare O'Neil told triple j that the government wasn't trying to bring down house prices. The interview found a new life online this week, so we asked the experts what they think.
The wave theft is crazy, I’m lucky enough to work for myself and pay myself a good wage better then what i would be paid if I worked for a company.
In my industry the standard charge out rate is 140 an hour excluding gst.
I can afford to pay myself 40 hours at 60 dollars an hour and only physically do 28 hours work and the company (i own) will still make a small profit.
Every hour after that is profit to the company.
Most businesses work out the same at different scales, they say your wage costs double what you earn which is on average true. But it neglects the tax break companies get allowing them to effectively make 2 days of free money from your 40 hour work week.
I think the system needs jigging for sure.
Small businesses cant really afford a change but large companies all that free money for labour compounds very quickly.
I’ve never been a business owner, but i’ve heard about the extra costs, usually from bosses complaints about their inability to pay more.
Interestingly, i’ve never heard about the tax break you mention.
I’s under the impression payroll tax, and insurance were the biggest extra costs to employing people. If theres a general tax break to those, then i have witnessed some rather convincing crocodile tears in my time.
Oh right, i see what you mean. Its avoiding double taxation of the same monies.
Because the employees pay is taxed also, if the tax office were to tax the whole $10,000 it would mean they effectively tax the same set of money twice. In this example that $5000 of employee wages would be taxed first as business tax, then as income tax.
Yeah pretty much, but for a company it works out well for the owner who pays themselves. Makes it very easy to report minimum profits while paying yourself well
The wave theft is crazy, I’m lucky enough to work for myself and pay myself a good wage better then what i would be paid if I worked for a company.
In my industry the standard charge out rate is 140 an hour excluding gst.
I can afford to pay myself 40 hours at 60 dollars an hour and only physically do 28 hours work and the company (i own) will still make a small profit.
Every hour after that is profit to the company.
Most businesses work out the same at different scales, they say your wage costs double what you earn which is on average true. But it neglects the tax break companies get allowing them to effectively make 2 days of free money from your 40 hour work week.
I think the system needs jigging for sure.
Small businesses cant really afford a change but large companies all that free money for labour compounds very quickly.
I’ve never been a business owner, but i’ve heard about the extra costs, usually from bosses complaints about their inability to pay more.
Interestingly, i’ve never heard about the tax break you mention.
I’s under the impression payroll tax, and insurance were the biggest extra costs to employing people. If theres a general tax break to those, then i have witnessed some rather convincing crocodile tears in my time.
Yeah so effectively everything that is paid to employees is considered an expense to business.
So for simple numbers
Bring in 10k through work,
Pay 5k in wages and then pay tax on the other 5k Small businesses is Australia pay 25 percent so you then owe 1250 in tax
Not pay tax on the 10k then make wages out of the remaining 7500
Oh right, i see what you mean. Its avoiding double taxation of the same monies.
Because the employees pay is taxed also, if the tax office were to tax the whole $10,000 it would mean they effectively tax the same set of money twice. In this example that $5000 of employee wages would be taxed first as business tax, then as income tax.
Yeah pretty much, but for a company it works out well for the owner who pays themselves. Makes it very easy to report minimum profits while paying yourself well
Yeah so effectively everything that is paid to employees is considered an expense to business.
So for simple numbers
Bring in 10k through work,
Pay 5k in wages and then pay tax on the other 5k Small businesses is Australia pay 25 percent so you then owe 1250 in tax
Not pay tax on the 10k then make wages out of the remaining 7500