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    Eh. Fuck off. I really don’t care anymore.

    You chose this. You knew exactly what was at stake, you knew who Trump was beyond any shadow of a doubt, you knew he was going to fully enable Isreal to wipe your family off the face of the earth. You knew.

    I fought all the bad faith arguments flying around here and beyond. All the “never genocide” bullshit. Every day, for the better part of a year.

    But you played stupid fucking games. And now we all have to find out.

    It sucks because people will suffer. Likely people I care about too. But this bleeding heart “liberal” has been bled dry. I can’t muster any more fucks.

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      I’m with you bud. I honestly tried. Lesser of two evils, help everyone, people deserve safety nets. Well the people I was fighting to help overwhelmingly voted against all of those. I honestly feel for anyone who voted for the same things I did and lost, but anyone who didn’t vote or voted to remove those protections I’m done feeling bad for.

      Sorry grandma, you voted in the man who openly wanted to get rid of Medicare. Don’t care anymore. You needed Obamacare but voted for the people who openly said they’d repeal it? Too bad, get some bootstraps.

      Again, those who voted to protect those things I feel for and I still want to help, but I’m done trying to help those who openly push against me.

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      It’s curious that these people never targeted the Republican position on Gazza, even though it was clear from the polls that Trump had a good chance of winning.

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        Yeah, fuck the brown people getting fucked by both parties. The US is a white supreme country and if they don’t adhere to the “liberal” white supremacy it is only right they suffer the “conservative” white supremacy.

        Even if all Arabs, Blacks and Latinos had voted Dems, the decline into fascism of the US is inevitable. You are just riling up blame and hatred towards minorities because they didn’t do what you want. How is fascism supposed to be prevented, when it is that deeply ingrained in the white majority?

        Also what an narcissistic position to feel that you are entitled to dispense “sympathy”.

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      You tried to chastise voters to see things your way, and now you’re surprised that it didn’t work. Sure, you were absolutely right, but the way you and others made your case made your efforts less than useless. The way you feel about those voters is exactly how I feel about you right now, because I was ignored by you and your fellow ranters for months while you berated voters into hardening their stance against you and Harris.

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      Liberals love to talk about how much their hearts bleed. But it was also liberals talking about how disruptive and criminal people protesting in black bloc were being last time Trump was in power. It was also liberals who were saying students protesting peacefully on campuses needed to be beaten and thrown in prison.

      You lot don’t give a shit about anyone but yourselves. You use minorities as tokens and ways to sell merch. The downside to that is that when the republicans are doing pogroms these next four years, they’re gonna be going after the people who aren’t armed. And while leftists will always have the backs of our queer and trans brothers and sisters, democrats can figure out defense and mutual support on your own. Because we remember who was really there for us last time, and it wasn’t you. It will never be you.

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      Are you imaging a world where Kamala wasn’t full throatedly supporting the genocide as well? Kamala “Most lethal military”, “Israel has a right to defend itself”, “No arms embargo”, “I’m basically Joe Biden but I want Republicans in my cabinet” Harris?

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        Yeah, you can fuck right off too. The news is already full of evidence that Trump is explicitly enabling Isreal to do wayyyy worse. Just like we all told you.

        I’m done arguing in good faith with you asshats. Mods can remove my posts, ban me, whatever. Giving you clowns free reign to canvas lemmy with bad faith arguments just because they are borderline civilly worded is what helped disenfranchise the small slice of the internet lemmy represents.

        Fuck you and fuck off. I’m done.

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          I vote we bring back “die in a fire” for the type of person you are responding to. Them fucking off hasn’t worked and doesn’t elicit a response that equals the damage their rhetoric has caused.

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            Sorry Kamala ran a dogshit campaign and failed. If you can’t extract any concessions from our representatives in a democracy, what the fuck is the point? Not doing genocide should be bare fucking minimum.

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            I’m just glad you guys are finally admitting you don’t give a shit about minorities. Maybe you’ll finally grow a backbone and get out there and protest. Or do LITERALLY FUCKING ANYTHING besides hand-wringing.

            Let’s be honest though, you’re probably gonna just end up being the racist shitwaffles you usually are.

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              Did you just assume our minority status?

              Project harder angry white savior!

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                Project harder? Assume minority status? Are you just repeating things you’ve heard in the hopes they sound cool? You sound like a parody of yourself.

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            Yep. I thought fighting the constant barrage of disenfranchisement was important during the election year (sigh). They were out in arms trying to disenfranchise as many progressive/leftists as they could. Fighting them was important to keep voters from throwing the bath out with the bathwater due to an imperfect reality.

            Well, we lost. Now I can mute these pieces of shit who are gleefully watching the world burn and trolling with “it would have happened anyway under Harris!”.

            This thread has tripled my block list already, and it’s going to be huge by the end of the month.

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              There’s no utility in spending time replying to users who are posting in bad faith

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                It’s not about changing their minds, it’s about keeping them from influencing others. But yeah, that obviously wasn’t effective either.

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          you should have been done months ago. you know whats bad faith? telling people they friends and family must die because you suddenly might be in the same situation they’ve been in for the last year. your friends and families lives may now be on the line.

          This is your lesson to learn. you don’t throw a group under the bus just for your own convenience.

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              Well, liberalism is the moderate wing of fascism. Ya’ll are so fucking smarmy while being propagandized stooges for the status quo. At least the rank and file conservatives are so bat shit insane they’re at least funny usually. They also have the capacity to reckon with the fact that real material problems exist, even though their solutions are so misdirected.

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                The thing is you don’t know anybody’s political alignment. For all the talking you do, all you base this accusation on is a single comment and slap the label on anyone who disagrees like a monkey throwing feces. That’s my point, not whatever else bullshit you’re on about.

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                  I can’t ever know what’s in people’s hearts and minds, but I see their output clear as day.

                  And to be fair, the above comment was referencing the quote “Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”. I was calling them a fascist for telling the anti genocide folks to fuck off because his blue team lost.

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        And you suppose Trump will touch his heart and at the very least consider slamming on the breaks? Get real.

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          No, but I understand the people not wanting to cosign the genocide and not voting or voting 3rd party. I can even forgive the low information voter that was hopeful toward Trump’s vague allusion toward stopping the wars (even though obviously this is incorrect).

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            For lefties, y’all really underestimate what trump can do, if you think that single issue outweights your safety at home.

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              Yeah, the “single issue” of genocide. And how do you think the safety of people develops, when genocide is normalized?

              Do you think the Nazis started with death camps? These things are processes. And normalizing genocide abroad is a big step towards normalizing genocide at home. There is no safety for anyone, if genocide is normalized.

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    A world renowned, pathological liar “played you”? The guy famous for a decades long history of incredible contradictions, tall tales and epic falsehoods. That guy. The Mythomaniac to end all mythomanics. The compulsive liar that lies more easily than he breaths? He played you? Really? I’m shocked!

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    “All she had to do was stop the war in Lebanon and Gaza and she would receive everyone’s votes here,” Dearborn’s Democratic mayor, Abdullah Hammoud, told the Associated Press.

    Spot the mayor who has no idea what the job of Vice President actually is…

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      Depending on what they mean by “stop the war” in gaza, if they mean the current hostilities (which, yeah it’s what she probably meant) or end the conflict in its entirety, that could be the biggest God damn ask I’ve ever heard.

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          The US is supplying the vast majority of weapons, paying billions of aid and vetoing any UN resolution against one party of the genocide. Also the US built a landing pier, allegedly for delivering aid. Instead of aid it delivered soldiers who slaughtered some 300 people in a “hostage rescue mission”. Also the US provides surveillance flights, shoots down missiles and drones sent to stop the genocider from genociding…

          Saying the US is not a party in this, and insinuating that the US has no options to stop this is absurd. The US could stop the weapons flow and stop the diplomatic cover and this genocide would be over within days.

          Fucking Ronald Reagan stopped an Israeli onslaught in Lebanon with a single phone call. The US has that power. Biden and Harris choose not to use it every single day. Instead they use their power to make sure enough weapons are there that the slaughter can continue.

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              “we armed the bully with brass knuckles and body armor and all the implicit endorsement that kind of thing brings but he usually just chokes out his victims with his bare hands so AKSHUALLY we are blameless here” 🤓☝️

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              That is not an argument against not supplying bombs, artillery and tank shells, fighter jets… And the vast majority of Israeli attacks are not sniper attacks. Also without the US sending missile systems to protect Israel against the neighbors intervening, that gives the cover under which the snipers can act with impunity.

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                No, what I’m saying is stopping the supply of arms won’t stop the genocide. Folks who make that argument are kidding themselves.

                There is only one way to stop the genocide and that’s a full scale invasion of Israel to separate the two parties and force them to behave, but nobody has the balls to float that idea.

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        All it would take is threatening an arms embargo. Presidents have stopped Israel via a single phone call before, and they need our billions of dollars worth of bombs to continue. Don’t act like we’re powerless small beans here.

        Worst case, they keep going but not on our dime and not with our support.

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    I’m guessing leopardsatemyface is gonna be the new hermancainaward hotbed of schadenfreude over the next 4 years

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      I don’t feel sorry for these people. We’ve been through the Trump administration once already. They completely knew what they were voting for.

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      To be fair, Rashida Tlaib basically told them not to vote for Harris. Probably should reconsider voting for her next election.

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      It’s like the trolley problem but the person pulls the lever to kill as many people as possible to “send a message” to whoever is tying up people on trolley tracks.

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      Moṙ luık ku̇tıŋ ȯf Yṙ feıſ t ſpuıt Yṙ noz hıṙ.

      spoiler

      More like cutting off your face to spite your nose here.

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    reminder:

    this election was lost on multiple fronts.

    do not let articles like this, however truthful, and the inevitable spiteful comments underneath convince you that the next four years were caused by Arab-Americans.

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      Yeah, even if we won Michigan, where the Arab-American vote is strongest, it wouldn’t have reversed our defeat in the electoral college.

      This is just more sad “But I didn’t think Leopards would eat MY face!” that is happening in all kinds of demographics of the US electorate right now.

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      fine, fine, yes, it is multifactorial. Unity in opposing trump’s ghouls is the most important, not infighting over losing.

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        thanks, and not trying to be combative here :) i just know how discourse molds and progresses and it’s just a few short steps from the comments and name calling i’m seeing here to “pro-Palestine caused trump”

        when in reality biden/harris actively ignored the petitioning of multiple vital demographics including latino, young, and low-income voters—all of which played out very poorly. it speaks volumes that i haven’t seen a single post about these demographics yet and multiple about Arab-Americans.

        just be careful yall! your neighbors need you

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    For an article titled, “Dearborn residents show remorse,” it sure didn’t feature a lot of, you know, Dearborn residents showing remorse.

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      Minorities have been suffering for years under both democrats and republicans. If democrats can’t manage to survive four years, then that’s your problem.

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        I’m sorry, do you think that non minorities are going to suffer in a way that is even close to the additional harm this is going to cause to minorities? Are you dumb?

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    I lived in Detroit for a brief period and my observation was that the Arab population in Dearborn was comprised mainly of people born into multi-generational wealth. I know that’s anecdotal but if my observations were accurate then we’re talking about wealthy people who are disconnected from real life struggles who are voting for Trump. Not about immigrants who have seen and experienced hardships.