Enjoying exploring Aussie Zone so far. Thanks to @lodion, i think, for hosting! I’m an endemic lurker coming over from Reddit. Trying a few things on ‘Jerboa for Lemmy’, learning the ropes, so sorry for editing and other mistakes, please let me know when I make them.

To the actual point of the post,

Theres a few different spots, other instances/communities, that I’s wondering if ‘Aussie Zone’ should/can link the feed to. So we can begin to coalesce an Aussie user base, without all having to pile into the one instance, or individually find these other places and have duplication across communities of similar topics.

For example there is, lemmy.perthchat.org (instance) [email protected] (community) lemmy.nz (instance) (would probs be good to keep tabs on these dodgy lookin fellas) And i’m sure there are others,

Maybe i’ve got the wrong end of the stick, but it seems like we could end up with several concurrent ‘Australia’ chats leading to fragmentation and reduced engagement as a result?

Sorry for the essay.

  • deadcat
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    2 years ago

    I’ll be honest, lemmy seems confusing as fuck for new comers… and I say this as one of the early Digg to Reddit refugees.

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      For sure… it has some rough edges. Some of these will go away over time as devs add features. Others are unavoidable given the fundamental federated model.

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      Roger that; speaking as someone who enjoys Ubuntu and being frustrated, navigating the new federation is… it’s not good. Still, we’re here now - let’s make it our labyrinth!

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    While having distributed social networks is much better than the centralized models I do see the splintering of communities into separate instances as frustrating. Add to that the current difficulties in finding and subscribing to communities and it becomes a major hurdle for new users.

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      Not being a single quick “URL edit” away from an intended destination is… different. I’m sure there’s another easy way; I’m just yet to uncover it! I feel like you will need to remember which community lives in which federation? Or something?

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    If you want to compare it to how it works on Reddit, you can imagine that each Community across different instances is its own subreddit - the only thing Reddit enforces is uniqueness to the subreddit name. In that way, you can have /r/Australia and /r/Straya, and people will congregate on one or the other for one reason or another. Though the name uniqueness does funnel people into a certain spot as there’s only one ‘instance’ - reddit itself.

    I think if Lemmy had something like multireddits, so you could subscribe to similar communities under a single banner, that would go a long way to addressing the fragmentation problem - in the meantime it’s probably up to instance owners/mods to try and direct people to other similar communities to reduce the impact. 🤷‍♂️

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      Yeah I’d like to see “multicommunities” in Lemmy’s future. It would definitely help combat community fragmentation. Though it may also increase community confusion :)

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        Agree. It would be nice to subscribe to things by topics like #australia or #melbourne, and let the federation from your instance sort out the rest.

        Btw thanks for setting up this instance! I was considering something similar, but don’t need to bother now. 😁

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      Yes! That example of /r/Straya and /r/Australia is good. Subscribing to similar communities under a single banner is basically what I had in mind. But as you say, as long as users who have been here longer can help direct others, then its word of mouth and users own discoveries. I’m interested to watch this progress.

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    Everyone can participate in communities on different instances. If that means users from this instance primarily interact within communities elsewhere, that is totally fine and expected.

    Communities will naturally form where they do for a variety of reasons. If that means here on aussie.zone, great. If it’s somewhere else, also great. The focus should be on participating and building the community wherever it is.

    No need “link” to the other instances you’ve mentioned. Go ahead and join any communities you like over there. If they don’t exist or you want it created here, just ask :)

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      Hey there, I’m not OP, but I am also new to both Lemmy and aussie.zone. Sorry to annoy you with my trivial questions, but how do communities and modding work here?

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        In generals, mods are appointed per community. They can delete posts, ban users etc.

        On this specific instance (https://aussie.zone) I’m currently the only admin. As the need arises, I’ll grant people mod rights in specific communities. So far, posts on the communities here have been very few, so no modding has been needed.

        Having said that, I’ll likely make a sticky post in the next day or so asking for volunteers to mod the existing communities.

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      Okay thanks, i think i get you, its based on a more natural, bottom up, congregation model. Bit of a step change 😂

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      2 subreddits I follow (used to follow) which were quite popular are /r/AusRenovation and /r/AusLegal. The first is where people ask for DIY advice, the second where people ask for legal advice.

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        Thoughts on dropping the Aus from the names? I think it’s implicit with the instance name.

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          I think having the Aus will help geo locate it, I in know we are in the Aussie zone community but it can be hard to pick up on that sometimes

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            Yeah and when searching. I think as searching and discoverability improves, people will search for “Aus” to find communities. Think of it as SEO haha

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    There needs to be a site or Lemmy itself needs to change so that it automatically supports “multi communities”. Like If i go to /s/Australia it should get /s/Australia from perthchat, lemmy.ml and all the other ones.

    They already do support this but it’s only the “front page” which is nice I can see beehaw stuff.

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    It’s just part of having an explosion of new communities, I think hopefully will sort itself out.

    Having said that if you did want to post your post to more than one community (or crosspost someone elses post) there is a cross-post icon across from the comments e.g. the two squares overlaid. You can then search for one of another community (not sure if from your subscribed list) and post there as well.

    It doesn’t add another post, just a ‘crossposted to’ note.