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  • Rusty Raven M
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    1 year ago

    I just put link about the fire in Southbank on the main page if anyone is still wondering what is was about.

    I am also thinking about how to make better use of the main page and other posts. If anyone is interested in dicussing options you can visit the Feedback & Suggestions post.

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        1 year ago

        That is always the suspicion. Although some people just enjoy burning things down and a vacant building makes a good target, so it could just be plain old arson.

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          1 year ago

          That’s probably the case, but I just assume someone is out to make quick buck.

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        But seriously, how much would they have insured the current buildings on the site for when they’re going to demolish them anyway? I can’t see the cost of cleaning up the burned out buildings being lower than the cost of demolishing intact buildings, and it’ll be harder to recover anything for recycling.

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          Why pay for demolition when the insurance company will after a fire? Not sure what the premiums would be, or the excess, but I wager it would be lower than contracting it out. Potentially asbestos in there too which adds to the disposal costs.

          I don’t think the owners would want anything recycled from there.

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            Why pay for demolition when the insurance company will after a fire?

            That isn’t generally how building insurance works. The insurer pays out the agreed value and the owner still has to clean up the mess. Well, they have to clean up the mess if they want to do anything useful with the site. It’s very hard for a council to actually obtain an order to force an owner to demolish a structure. But in this case, they want to build apartments there, so they’re going to need to pay for demolition and remediation of the site at some point.

            I don’t think the owners would want anything recycled from there.

            The old public housing buildings in Flemington that were demolished (Victoria St, Hill St, Holland Ct) had as much recyclable material stripped for sale before they even started demolition. Gas meters, plumbing, wiring – it all got removed. Even the scrap value for recycling the metal is significant.

            Potentially asbestos in there too which adds to the disposal costs.

            I don’t see how burning it down helps with that. There was a small amount of asbestos-containing material in the demolished Flemington flats, which was dealt with in the usual way, but several times during the construction of the new apartment buildings, they’ve found asbestos contamination in the soil. Every time that happens, they pause construction, and call in a decontamination crew who filter the soil to remove the contamination. They had to do this on the site of the old Flemington Community Centre as well, and not so long ago Maribyrnong City Council had to remove asbestos contamination from soil in Footscray Park.

            Burning the buildings down is just going to make decontamination and remediation more difficult and expensive.

    • cuavas
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      1 year ago

      Can any registered user post to the community, like you can on most subreddits, or are there more restrictions?

      • Rusty Raven M
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        It’s open for anyone to post, but posts should be restricted to things that are relevant to Melbourne/Victoria as per the community guidelines.