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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.
Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.
Did you read the constitutional amendment? The advisory body had no power.
Cautious of giving the government more power. Government.
The voice as it was would have been ripe for abuse by the government. They could just put any of their cronies in the voice advisory role and just have it go “yeah the indigenous people agree that you should make more mines where our heritage sites are”.
It still wouldn’t have given them any more power, because it fundamentally did not have any power to give.
One of the main arguments you kept making throughout this entire debate was that the advisory body had no power. You repeatedly suggested this was a reason to vote No. Now you’re turning around 2 days after the result and claiming the complete opposite. You could not be any more mask off if you tried.
It would though, because it would now give the government the ability to say that they listened to and consulted with the indigenous advisory board, made up of white mining magnates and pauline hanson, and then went ahead and leased out the indigenous cultural land for mining for 100 years. See? The government can no go ahead and do things that harm indigenous culture and people while being able to have the full backing of the indigenous voice to parliament.
You not understanding the ways that this position was ripe for abuse by the government isn’t suprising, nor is your trying to pass it of as me changing my tune.
I didn’t say the Voice has any power. It doesn’t. What I’m saying is that the voice existing gives the GOVERNMENT more power.
They have been doing that forever. It’s not “more” power, it’s exactly the same power the government has always had.
No, they didn’t have an indigenous voice behind their decisions before. Now they would have.
This is what I mean when I say you are completely fake and full of shit. Literally your last reply to me:
First the Voice is “powerless”, then it gives “more power”. One minute the Voice has no credibility because it is “made up of white mining magnates and Pauline Hanson”, the next minute it has credibility because it is “Indigenous”. You shift the goalposts in every single comment you make. You stand for absolutely nothing and have never made a single argument in good faith throughout the months of debate here.
You’re getting mixed up. Seems to be a common thing with you. It’s almost like it’s intentional so you can try and call other people disingenuous etc.
The voice has no power for the indigenous people it’s supposed to represent.
The voice gives the government more power to do things that negatively affect indigenous people.
This isn’t rocket science. Do you understand yet?