Voice to parliament referendum fails in defeat that Indigenous advocates will see as a blow to progress towards reconciliation

Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

  • WhirlybirdEnglish
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    1 year ago

    It still wouldn’t have given them any more power, because it fundamentally did not have any power to give.

    It would though, because it would now give the government the ability to say that they listened to and consulted with the indigenous advisory board, made up of white mining magnates and pauline hanson, and then went ahead and leased out the indigenous cultural land for mining for 100 years. See? The government can no go ahead and do things that harm indigenous culture and people while being able to have the full backing of the indigenous voice to parliament.

    You not understanding the ways that this position was ripe for abuse by the government isn’t suprising, nor is your trying to pass it of as me changing my tune.

    I didn’t say the Voice has any power. It doesn’t. What I’m saying is that the voice existing gives the GOVERNMENT more power.

    • IlandarEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      it would now give the government the ability to say that they listened

      They have been doing that forever. It’s not “more” power, it’s exactly the same power the government has always had.

      • WhirlybirdEnglish
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        1 year ago

        No, they didn’t have an indigenous voice behind their decisions before. Now they would have.

        • IlandarEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          This is what I mean when I say you are completely fake and full of shit. Literally your last reply to me:

          now give the government the ability to say that they listened to and consulted with the indigenous advisory board, made up of white mining magnates and pauline hanson

          First the Voice is “powerless”, then it gives “more power”. One minute the Voice has no credibility because it is “made up of white mining magnates and Pauline Hanson”, the next minute it has credibility because it is “Indigenous”. You shift the goalposts in every single comment you make. You stand for absolutely nothing and have never made a single argument in good faith throughout the months of debate here.

          • WhirlybirdEnglish
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            1 year ago

            You’re getting mixed up. Seems to be a common thing with you. It’s almost like it’s intentional so you can try and call other people disingenuous etc.

            The voice has no power for the indigenous people it’s supposed to represent.

            The voice gives the government more power to do things that negatively affect indigenous people.

            This isn’t rocket science. Do you understand yet?