• Gorgritch_Umie_Killa
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    12 hours ago

    Until a Government actually takes us down that road i suppose we can’t really know what costs Australians would be willing to endure, so i guess its my hunch.

    • maniacalmanicmania
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      10 hours ago

      Labor wont take us down that road unless they are forced to.

      OK so my memory might be a bit hazy but even so…

      In '99 I don’t think anyone knew we’d flip Howard on sending troops to East Timor to stop the massacres. The last rally (or one of the last rallies) we had in Lismore NSW before Howard changed his tune was almost a riot. I think it was Ian Causley, the Nationals member for Page who came to speak at the rally.

      He repeated the same thing we’d heard for two or so weeks, something like ‘We can’t go to war with Indonesia’. Someone in the crowd yelled ‘Give me a gun, I’ll go’. Within seconds hundreds of people were chanting and yelling ‘Give us guns, give us guns, give us guns’.

      He was fucking SPOOKED. Farmers, hippies, students, workers all chanting to be armed so they could liberate East Timor. I wish I had video.

      Anyway, my point is, it has to come from the grass-roots or it wont happen.

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        4 hours ago

        Wow. Interesting time for sure. I’s under the impression John Howard’s sudden flip was down to the Americans saying go.

        Yep, it will have to come down to grass roots.

        Thats how Albanese plays everything. Maybe with the possible exception of the Voice to Parliament, he goes about a bees dick further than the public on everything.