• Taleya
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    1 year ago

    How is that rage inducing inconvenience you describe any different from the inconvenience of a legit sick day though. I mean outside your head.

    If a workplace workflow collapses from a callout, that’s on poor management. If a workplace can’t complete deliverables without one person, that’s on management.

    And ironically, cutting staff down so sharply that you end up with these scenarios is what causes a higher number of callouts due to burnout and stress

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      I’ve already explained above why a legit sick day is important, it stops your staff having to choose between being paid and doing the right thing - not spreading the illness.

      Unscrupulous business owners demanded too much of their staff, including working whilst sick - so the law was changed so that those staff would be protected.
      Unscrupulous employees abused this, so a limit was put in place - you get ten days a year.
      But somehow, you’ve decided that a staff protection is actually extra days off, that are being stolen from you if you don’t get sick!
      “in your own head” as you put it.

      I’m not currently managing a team, but when I did, I never asked for a sick note from the doctor, what a waste of time and money.
      People with your sense of entitlement cause nonsense like that.

      No one is entitled to your work for free.
      You aren’t entitled to payment for nothing.
      There’s a balance here, ever changing, with sloppy vague laws applied post facto in an effort to maintain it.
      I’m not against changing it, but taking your sick days as unplanned leave is against the spirit in which those sick days were bargained.

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        1 year ago

        Try that again without ad hominen attacks.

        These are obligations. Period. You want to do business in Australia, you play by these rules.

        There are actually no limits whatsoever on how many times you can call in sick. None. While your comment on overwork and unscrupulous employers is correct, there were absolutely no ‘unscrupulous employees’ abusing the system to the point where it had to be capped, literally you called in sick, you got no pay, or if your workplace paid you, that was a private arrangement. Mandated paid sick leave was written into its very existence as a limited number of days right from the start - and businesses decided to play to the legal bare minimum.

        Those ten days are factored into your annual wages btw. So yes, they do belong to me.

        Also: it’s incredibly hilarious that you’re trying to be denigratory going on about a ‘sense of entitlement’ when we’re discussing literal, legally defined entitlements.

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          1 year ago

          Falsely claiming that what I said was ad hominem is itself ad hominem.

          You keep doing you mate, I’m sure chucking sickies is the least annoying thing you do at work.

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            1 year ago

            you can’t help yourself, can you?