• Kombat Wombat@aus.social
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    7 months ago

    @Aussiemandeus @Baku as a country that struggled to recycle glass how are we going to recycle batteries that are infinitely more toxic.

    There is this push for all Aussie car owners to have electric, but we have no commitments to improve electrical infrastructure, why is it the individuals responsibility to make changes, where is the push for better public transport.

    We model our society and cities after the US, with sprawling suburbs and car centric neighbourhoods, why not make it easier to choose a bus over car a train over gridlock traffic. Focus on a better society, better urban planning and people will make better choices around cars.

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      7 months ago

      LFP batteries are taking over from the older NMC chemistry, and LFP doesn’t have those expensive toxic materials in them.

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      That’s what I mean about kicking the can down the road.

      We’re jumping to electric vehicles so fast with very few logistical solutions.

      May as well go to nuclear and deal with that waste. Save the steps and in 50 years we will find. A solution for it

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        May as well go to nuclear and deal with that waste. Save the steps and in 50 years we will find. A solution for it

        Too slow to build, too expensive, and too mired in politics and legal issues. So the only result will be that coal and gas stick around for even longer. Which is precisely why conservative parties are pushing nuclear.

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          To slow to hard was the issue 20 years ago.

          The tree planted 20 years ago is better than the tree planted today but in 20 years time today’s tree is there

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            The previous LNP government could not build car parks.

            There is zero chance there will be nuclear power plants in Australia in the next 20 years.

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            Renewables are cheaper and faster to build. In Australia with the renewable resources we have nuclear just doesn’t make sense to start building today.

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      The Nullarbor plain recently electrified with charging stations at enough chip shops that you can drive Perth to Melbourne on a dinky electric car. The electric generators are powered by waste oil from the chips.

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      but we have no commitments to improve electrical infrastructure

      Do you mean transmission, or the electricity supply? Because there is plenty happening on both fronts, and so many people have solar panels that they can already do some or all of their charging with renewable energy.

      Agreed 100% on your second paragraph, but it will take some time and work to get there. I hope to see buses go 100% electric too, as that’s such an obvious case and will further press the advantage of public transport over private cars.