The White House on Tuesday condemned ā€œdeath to Americaā€ chants that surfaced online from a recent rally in Dearborn, Mich., protesting Israelā€™s war in Gaza.

Press secretaryĀ Karine Jean-PierreĀ replied, ā€œyesā€ when asked ifĀ President BidenĀ condemns the comments in the chants, which were captured on video by some attendees.

ā€œPeaceful protests are something that the president has also been very clear that, its important to give folks space to peacefully protest. But any type of violent rhetoric, we are going to denounce,ā€ she said.

Dearborn mayor Abdullah Hammoud (D) has also denounced the chants, sharing inĀ a statement on XĀ that ā€œDearborn is a city of proud Americans.ā€

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    Because chants of death to America isnā€™t about destroying the system. Itā€™s about killing the people. How you donā€™t get the difference is odd.

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      Not this again. This is based on the original Persian, which is a mistranslated figure of speech. In Persian language it means down with America, itā€™s not talking about actual deaths. In Persian, they even say death to potatoes.

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        One constructs a message for the recipient.

        If you say ā€œdeath to Americaā€, to Americans, in America, knowing full fucking well that it will be interpreted as ā€œdeath to Americaā€, then I hate to break it to you, you ARE saying ā€œdeath to Americaā€.

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          Only if done in the recipientā€™s language.

          When Bush said there should be a crusade against terrorism, itā€™s not his fault if the Arabic speaking media used the word for the historic Crusades.

          And as for the chanting in Dearborn, it was one nut job chanting and everyone from the mayor to president Biden condemned it.

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            Only if done in the recipientā€™s language.

            No. If I know full well how my message will be received, itā€™s irrelevant. Language is a construct for communication, it isnā€™t intrinsically the transference of ideas. If I blabber or gesticulate anything knowing that it will be received to mean X, then I have knowingly and intentionally communicated X.

            When Bush said there should be a crusade against terrorism

            It ABSOLUTELY was the fault of his administration: when youā€™re communicating to a global audience, which he was doing, you pay a TON of people to avoid making exactly this kind of error.

            And while I agree that ignorance when individuals make this mistake is understandable, as soon as itā€™s been pointed outā€¦ If you keep doing it, itā€™s no longer a mistake, itā€™s intentional.

            it was one nut job

            Thatā€™s fair. Iā€™m not implying it isnā€™t.

            All Iā€™m saying itā€™s childish to say something that you know will be interpreted. Itā€™d be like me saying the argument was ā€œretardedā€, and then if saying ā€œAs someone who is bilingual, I was using the french wordā€.

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      If you think theyā€™re literally calling to kill over 300 million people, I have great news about potential crypto and NFT investments for you.

      Itā€™s almost like the mainstream media deliberately doesnā€™t give a voice to people outside of a very narrow (and shrinking) Overton window.

      Edit: honestly having trouble imagining how absolutely stupid someone has to be to downvote this lol. Guess I need to make a cryptocurrency lol.

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        This is the same thinking that people saying that if the roles were reversed between Palestinians and Israel, that Palestine wouldnā€™t wipe out Israelā€¦ religious hate, especially Islam, knows no peace.

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            Yes, I forgot how the majority Muslim nations, donā€™t rape their women, have honor killings for their women, murder anyone who is LGBTQ+ and enjoy stoning people still.

            I mean hell I remember when I was in the EU the last time and they had a stoningā€¦o waitā€¦

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              Christian-majority countries donā€™t rape? Oh honey, you have a lot to learn about the world.

              Jamaica and Uganda have the worst murder rates of LGBT in the world, what religion are most Jamaicans?

              Youā€™re overgeneralizing billions of people with false stereotypes. Majority of the worldā€™s 2 BIllion Muslims live in democracies. Most of those democracies have elected women as presidents and prime ministers, has America yet? Stop insisting your stereotypes are real and actually go and see the world and check. Youā€™ll find out youā€™re wrong.

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                Theyā€™re not raping people for a religious reason. I donā€™t know how youā€™re not getting that.

                Iā€™ve been to most of the world, Islam is the most violent religion in the modern world. Stop acting like itā€™s not.

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                  NOBODY is raping people for a religious reason. No country legalizes that, not even the Taliban. Is that what you think is happening? No wonder youā€™re insisting on such blind hate. Please educate yourself. Peace.

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                    Lol who said theyā€™re doing it legallyā€¦holy crap youā€™re reading into your own bias. Stop acting like Islam is somehow not a religion with a ton of violence thatā€™s done with its name.