• NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml
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    “During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

    -Michael Parenti Blackshirts and the reds

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    So they ditched the genocide narrative, then went to the cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading), and now they’re just railing against poor people having jobs and education?

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      cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading)

      I disagree that it was “more fair”. The cultural genocide narrative only makes sense to the vast majority to Westoids because Westoids tend to think of Islam as a monolith of Burkha-wearing Wahabis. Some of the “evidence” presented by Westoids of this cultural genocide was that Uyghur women were not wearing hijabs or burkhas, completely ignoring the fact that the traditional headwear for a Uyghur woman is neither of those things, but rather a colorful square hat.

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    The solution, obviously, is to give everyone in Taiwan an AMERICAN MADE m-16 and carpet bomb the factories. Then send in disruptors to raze the housing units and steal whatever possessions - anything of value - to stir chaos in the local government. This will create dual pressure from within and without and we can finally bulkanize China’s vast resources for western investor hoarding. very-intelligent

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        They will be uplifted in their new found freedom-and-democracy and will be featured in the wikipedia column next to the tiny amerikkka with a footnote. That’s a prestige of being amerikkka 's friend. Very dapper!

        And we’ll promote one of the most corrupt ones who is only loosely tied to the region through the relative of a relative in “exile” as the vice deputy vice chair of the Chief of Staff of the newly appointed totally not connected to the anglo-burn oil and gas and or weapons companies regional Viceroy.

        So they have representation, and a seat-ish at the table. liberalism

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    Zenz confirmed to be member of the IMT related Fightback Symbionese Liberation Army caucus since he correctly stated that wage exists in China proving that the Stalinist state didn’t abolish value form

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    I mean… It’s probably the “involuntary” portion of their reeducation that folk take exception to. Maybe let’s not forget that…

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    Oooooooh yes more meat for the meat grinder gets me all hot and spicy xi daddy. Please more wage slaves for the machine.

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            Mostly just being a jackass. I think it’s hilarious that the Mao apologist are applauding people being taken from their communities to inevitably end up fueling the capitalist machine. But hey I guess anything to avoid upsetting Daddy Xi. You can paint anything with a pretty picture. The Canadians perfected that with their reeducation programs. Just assimilating the non conformist into our glorious economy and culture. Nothing to see here!

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              If you think this situation is like what Canada did to its indigenous population, you’re projecting. Beyond that, trying to have it both ways with “Mao apologist” and “Daddy Xi” just goes to further demonstrate you don’t really have anything to say but that you think you’re superior.

              As an aside, it’s hilarious that you depict Mao as somehow antithetical to “taking people from their communities”. He cared about community and wanted to foster it, but he also believed and put into practice that people sometimes had to be at least temporarily transplanted to new environments, all the way from the mass-rehabilitation of opiate addicts at the end of the Civil War to the education-by-labor of the Cultural Revolution. Like in those cases, the Uighur people interned here are not being permanently separated from their families or communities, but receiving education and training so that when they return, they have more options immediately available to them besides joining theofascist militants.

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      As you surely know, the point of the post isn’t “wage slavery good”, the point is “wage slavery is a minor issue compared to literal genocide, so talking like this is an indication that Zenz is maybe quite the exaggerator.”