reddit libs read Engels “On Authority” challenge (impossible)
Why do the anti-authoritarians not confine themselves to crying out against political authority, the state? All Socialists are agreed that the political state, and with it political authority, will disappear as a result of the coming social revolution, that is, that public functions will lose their political character and will be transformed into the simple administrative functions of watching over the true interests of society. But the anti-authoritarians demand that the political state be abolished at one stroke, even before the social conditions that gave birth to it have been destroyed They demand that the first act of the social revolution shall be the abolition of authority. Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?
I’ve seen people say that Engels is larping with this quote. Engels fought in the 1848 revolution, serving as an Aide-De-Camp to August Willich.
@[email protected] I view nazi germany and china quite a bit different from real capitalist societies. Simply having a stock market doesn’t mean the markets are free to function as they please.
I also tend to disagree with canada and usa being genocidial at this point in time. For sure they did horrific things, but comparing usa to nazi germany or current day china is delusional, as the US country’s government is not actively killing a part of their own population.
What rubs me the wrong way in these conversations is mentioning capitalism as a system that commits the genocide. Both germany and china are/were state driven, and as such the markets didn’t really have anything to do with the actions. Instead the genocide is driven by the government that is/was authoritarian, and as such the markets aren’t driving the killing.
Brains made of spun sugar.
as the US country’s government is not actively killing a part of their own population
it’s actually still wrong to kill people who aren’t citizens
By refusing to properly quarantine, the U.S. suffered 2 million excess deaths.
Excess deaths are usually the way these ‘massacres’ and ‘famines’ are counted.
No, because then they would also count any decline in the birthrate as also being part of it.
Then again, calling it a genocide isn’t the worst thing when you consider who died the most under US covid policy
Instead the genocide is driven by the government that is/was authoritarian, and as such the markets aren’t driving the killing.
“They did a genocide because they’re authoritarian, no further motives” is the most liberal-brained thing I’ve ever seen.
Sure yea Canada is not genocidal within what…the last 15 seconds? Since the residential school system closed less than 30 years ago, starlight tours are not “officially” a thing anymore, and no indigenous women have been sterilised, murdered, or gone missing in the last 15 seconds
Remember that time about twenty-twenty five years ago when KKKlanada deployed actual literal tanks to crush a Mohawk uprising?
Turns out the libs were the real tankies all along
And how people still talk about how “brave” those soldiers were who went in to force people off their ancestral land in order to build a golf course
Atilla the Hun was brave even if someone is brave that doesn’t make them not a piece of shit
Nah, this ain’t it. They had machine guns and tanks, air support, and outnumbered the defender. Brave would have been saying fuck this and going to jail. You’re not getting any awards for valor for standing around in the woods for two months pointing guns at kids and old people defended by a few hundred warriors.
Come tell us how you slew
Them old Arabs two by two
Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows
How bravely you faced one
With your sixteen pounder gun
And you frightened them damn natives to their marrowyou missunderstand me I don’t care how brave they are as I don’t consider bravery to be worthy of respect. I don’t care if they were brave in the same way I don’t care if they were allergic to shrimp
Gotcha. thank you for the clarification.
I mean sure, but I wouldn’t call soldiers going in with armour and armed with assault rifles brave when they’re facing literal children and indigenous land defenders.
As much as I wanna give the land defenders credit and this photo is badass, I think there’s a clear power imbalance that eliminates bravery. Like we wouldn’t call the American soldiers at My Lai brave for attacking civilians
Do they really? Jesus christ. :kkkanada:
KKKanada is encouraging the poor to get euthanized.
Oh my god how do repel bloody minded ignorance and ideology of this magnitude?
This is like someone showing up in an astronomy forum talking about crystal spheres or something, but when it comes to geopolitics and history they get away with it.
florida is genociding trans people
why is that goth chick punching a wholesome ukrainian “nationalist”? i thought this was about tankies :thinking-about-it:
The original is kick Nazis out of punk, so yeah. The anti-communists can’t even make original art.
Im pretty sure ive seen a version where they actually changed it to look like a tanky. I guess these people where too lazy to even find that one lol.
