• Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    @[email protected] I view nazi germany and china quite a bit different from real capitalist societies. Simply having a stock market doesn’t mean the markets are free to function as they please.

    I also tend to disagree with canada and usa being genocidial at this point in time. For sure they did horrific things, but comparing usa to nazi germany or current day china is delusional, as the US country’s government is not actively killing a part of their own population.

    What rubs me the wrong way in these conversations is mentioning capitalism as a system that commits the genocide. Both germany and china are/were state driven, and as such the markets didn’t really have anything to do with the actions. Instead the genocide is driven by the government that is/was authoritarian, and as such the markets aren’t driving the killing.

    Brains made of spun sugar.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Instead the genocide is driven by the government that is/was authoritarian, and as such the markets aren’t driving the killing.

      “They did a genocide because they’re authoritarian, no further motives” is the most liberal-brained thing I’ve ever seen.

    • Kaputnik [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Sure yea Canada is not genocidal within what…the last 15 seconds? Since the residential school system closed less than 30 years ago, starlight tours are not “officially” a thing anymore, and no indigenous women have been sterilised, murdered, or gone missing in the last 15 seconds

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          And how people still talk about how “brave” those soldiers were who went in to force people off their ancestral land in order to build a golf course

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              Nah, this ain’t it. They had machine guns and tanks, air support, and outnumbered the defender. Brave would have been saying fuck this and going to jail. You’re not getting any awards for valor for standing around in the woods for two months pointing guns at kids and old people defended by a few hundred warriors.

              • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                you missunderstand me I don’t care how brave they are as I don’t consider bravery to be worthy of respect. I don’t care if they were brave in the same way I don’t care if they were allergic to shrimp

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                Come tell us how you slew
                Them old Arabs two by two
                Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows
                How bravely you faced one
                With your sixteen pounder gun
                And you frightened them damn natives to their marrow

            • Kaputnik [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              I mean sure, but I wouldn’t call soldiers going in with armour and armed with assault rifles brave when they’re facing literal children and indigenous land defenders.

              As much as I wanna give the land defenders credit and this photo is badass, I think there’s a clear power imbalance that eliminates bravery. Like we wouldn’t call the American soldiers at My Lai brave for attacking civilians

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      By refusing to properly quarantine, the U.S. suffered 2 million excess deaths.

      Excess deaths are usually the way these ‘massacres’ and ‘famines’ are counted.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        No, because then they would also count any decline in the birthrate as also being part of it.

        Then again, calling it a genocide isn’t the worst thing when you consider who died the most under US covid policy

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Oh my god how do repel bloody minded ignorance and ideology of this magnitude?

      This is like someone showing up in an astronomy forum talking about crystal spheres or something, but when it comes to geopolitics and history they get away with it.