• Kaplya [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    My fellow liberals, Mussolini wasn’t voted into power.

    Mussolini was literally invited into power to “restore order” by the liberals themselves because they didn’t know how to deal with the communists taking over the country.

    Mussolini’s fascism was the first successful test case of a liberal experiment to brutally crush Leninism in Europe following the Bolshevik Revolution. Hitler followed in Mussolini’s footsteps.

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      Even funnier, Mussolini was invited into power by the litteral King of Italy, in a move that liberal historians are still struggling to describe in a way that doesn’t mention “class interest of the aristocracy”

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        Fascist-Catholic-Social Democrat-Liberal coalition government, united under Mussolini, against Communist-Socialist opposition.

        Truly the grandest coalition of all time.

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      I definitely remember the whole “We’re gonna burn this down if Trump was elected” momentum quickly turn to “We meant figuratively” and then “That means voting!”

      There’s a big reason why I have grown distant from some of my friends and family and it’s basically that I know I can’t trust them anymore

      More interested in keeping the peace than anything else

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        There’s a big reason why I have grown distant from some of my friends and family and it’s basically that I know I can’t trust them anymore

        I’d felt something similar for a while and I couldn’t put my finger on it. They all claimed to see the fascist rot and then they stuffed the genie right back into the bottle. You’re right, the trust is just gone.

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    Watching liberals use electoralism to jerry-rig a justification for embracing fascism has been both predictable and fascinating to witness

    To any future internet archeologists let it be known we knew exactly what was going on and don’t let them tell you otherwise

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    Imagine thinking your vote matters in Hitler vs. Mussolini election

    Imagine thinking your vote matters in Democrat vs. Republican election

    sadness

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    Liberals be like: "Revolution is a deranged fantasy for violent weirdos. We have to rely on the system in order to make things better. Even though the system will only ever result in fascist outcomes but it’s okay because this guy is only 98% fascist unlike the 100% fascist competitor.

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    Bravely voting for the guy who will immediately and enthusiasticly adopt the policies of the guy he didn’t vote for is actually a very good analogy for voting for the Dems.

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    There’s always a secret third option: kind-vladimir-ilyich

    (Dear fbi i mean this specifically in the hitler v mussolini example, also you guys haven’t approved my vacation days around thanksgiving)

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      I literally just had a lib admit in a recent thread that his voting for Biden was a vote for “genocide” and they justified it because it made them feel safer than Trump’s hypothetical ‘worse genocide’. Then someone else chimed in support by saying that they would ‘happily wash their hands in Palestinian blood’ to protect reproductive rights in the US—which were lost anyway.

      We’re doomed.

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      Even reading that, I’m still not 100% confident the op quote isn’t good satire and the rest is an act to get that quote off. Like this one-liner gets the point across better than basically any shit I’ve seen anywhere. Unbelievable that he just came up with that banger while seriously believing it.

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    these people yelled for four years how Trump was the end of democracy but in even the most extreme hypothetical they cannot conceive that democracy might be dead as long as the ritual of voting for one of exactly two options is preserved.

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      They can be inconsistent with their use of democracy because their conception of democracy is empty and purely formal and abstract. So it is easy for them to reinterpret political reality as ‘still democratic’ at the moment because their conception is very empty and has therefore relatively little to do with concrete, substantive democracy.

      Also because Trump in no way upset the material basis which they actually use to decide if there is democracy or not, namely whether or not the capitalist class whose views they express and interests they support saw their class power undermined, which of course they did not under Trump.

      To give an example of this: I was unfortunately in a conversation with a bourgeois liberal the other say, and they said that Russia is a ‘totalitarian society’. I asked why they thought that, instead of simply saying that it is a fairly authoritarian nationalist state with a form of highly state-directed capitalism, and they said that it is because they apparently ‘use arbitrary political power to violate private property’. Which is not only a bizarre criterion for totalitarianism, but also revealed how liberals think about political and social freedom and democracy.