Yeah, I hear you. With an election the country is choosing between two different paths. In this case we’re either choosing progress or… not.
One of Dutton’s talking points over the last few weeks was that he would propose some alternatives after the referendum. I imagine that will be part of the forthcoming “Albo is out of touch” campaign.
Almost everything I’ve seen last night and this morning was about how this wasn’t a result to do nothing and ignore it, it was a result that said go back and rethink because what you suggested wasn’t going to help.
This wasn’t “progress or not” though, that’s ridiculous and sore loser talk. Another toothless advisory panel that will be ignored isn’t “progress”.
Real progress would be something like guaranteeing some new seats at the senate to go with the “voice”. Give them an actual voice that gets to decide on things that affect their community. Giving them a “voice” that can and will be ignored will change nothing for the better.
It literally would be another toothless advisory panel because it was not going to have any power. Being constitutionally supported just means it has to exist in some unspecified form. There was no “demonstrated will of the Australian people” in it.
You know what does have the demonstrated will of the Australian people? That the proposed voice was a bad idea. That shouldn’t be ignored.
Yeah, I hear you. With an election the country is choosing between two different paths. In this case we’re either choosing progress or… not.
One of Dutton’s talking points over the last few weeks was that he would propose some alternatives after the referendum. I imagine that will be part of the forthcoming “Albo is out of touch” campaign.
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Yeah. Forgive me for saying so but this outcome is more or less a mandate to not do anything.
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Almost everything I’ve seen last night and this morning was about how this wasn’t a result to do nothing and ignore it, it was a result that said go back and rethink because what you suggested wasn’t going to help.
I’m surprised you would so easily believe what was said.
They can’t exactly say “yes well this proves there’s no appetite to address inequality and that Australians are happy with the status quo.”
Instead of course you get these placating which allow everyone to feel as though they’ve done the right thing while actually doing nothing at all.
Your last paragraph describes most of the reason why people would vote yes on such a toothless virtue signalling change.
This wasn’t “progress or not” though, that’s ridiculous and sore loser talk. Another toothless advisory panel that will be ignored isn’t “progress”.
Real progress would be something like guaranteeing some new seats at the senate to go with the “voice”. Give them an actual voice that gets to decide on things that affect their community. Giving them a “voice” that can and will be ignored will change nothing for the better.
It’s not another toothless advisory panel.
It would’ve been a constitutionally supported advisory, with demonstrated will of the Australian people. That wouldn’t be so easily ignored.
It literally would be another toothless advisory panel because it was not going to have any power. Being constitutionally supported just means it has to exist in some unspecified form. There was no “demonstrated will of the Australian people” in it.
You know what does have the demonstrated will of the Australian people? That the proposed voice was a bad idea. That shouldn’t be ignored.
Come on mate, obviously there would have been demonstrated will if the referendum was upheld.