• Nougat@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    Are they just emailing these to everyone in the global address list?

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      Judging by how the people in power seem to like badly implementing ideas from cautionary sci-fi books, here’s my guess:

      They’re probably using a point system. If you have an immigration hearing, a million points. If they find your name on a visa (not even necessarily you), that’s 20 points. If they find your name on an arrest record, that’s 10 points. If they find your name on any immigration court records, that’s 10 points

      Then they sort the list, send ICE after people with the highest scores, and are slowly emailing their way down the list to anyone with like 50 points or more

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        3 months ago

        works at a nonprofit assisting immigrants in court

        and apparently, if you’re an attorney or staffer at a non-profit that assists migrants and immigrants in court… ten bazillion trillion mega points.

        this guy isn’t the only one being targeted.

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          I know the logical sequence of events is probably the attorney being an informed contact as a representative having their details caught up in a crude, talentless scrape and the axiom about incompetence over malice but i realllly think this is a case of ¿Por qué no los dos?

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          So close.

          What has happened, and what the article says as the very last thing in it, is that this person received the email because an immigrant put his email address down as their contact email.

          1. John Smith, the immigrant, filled out some paperwork.

          2. John Smith put his lawyers email down as his contact email address.

          3. John Smith has his temporary parole ended, this email is sent by an automated system to his contact email address.

          The people being “targeted” are the people who have been ruled to be due for deportation.

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        Off topic, is there a way on Lemmy to link to a specific comment/post so I could still remain on my instance?

        For exempt this opens web browser to lemmy.world, I’m on lemmy.ee and would still want to stay within the app on my own instance.

        Edit: this time on topic. Yeah, they very likely are using LLM for decisions. Same thing happened with those ridiculous tariffs. I can’t believe they are this dumb to believe LLM is anything more than a fancy chat bot and isn’t actually thinking.

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          This is client dependent. I use Thunder, the sharing option lets you choose between the community’s instance for the share link, or the instance hosting your account.

          When opening links to other instances I believe you can use search on your own instance, paste the URL to open it on your local instance

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            I also use thunder, and that page just opens a browser for me.

            What I was hoping is that there would be some kind of syntax where I could reference comment or post, and Lemmy server would automatically translate that to the local URL.

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      The article explains it, but of course it was left until the very very end of the article:

      In a statement, a senior DHS official said notices may have been accidentally sent to US citizens if their contact information was submitted by migrants — calling it a case of “unintended recipients.” The agency insisted it would address such issues individually.

      So a migrant listed these people as their contact information. So the migrant has broken their parole and the automated email was sent to their contact email address, which they put down as these citizens.

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    Why are they expecting people to react to emails, anyway? If I got this in my email, I would assume it was just spam. A letter that comes by snail mail would get my attention, though.

    Are legal notices regularly sent by email now?

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      It’s calculated. They want the email to get ignored so that you “commit a crime” by staying in the country, giving them a “legitimate” excuse to deport you.

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        But I doubt that email can be considered sufficient notice in any court. In fact, now that it has been published, I wouldn’t be surprised if it starts getting spammed everywhere just because.

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          Immigration courts have far less rights, even to citizens, it takes ages to appeal past it to a real court

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            The president claimed it would be impossible to extend due process rights — as required under the Fifth Amendment — to all of the immigrants he wants to deport.

            “We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years,” he wrote. “We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in.” Mango Mussolini

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          They’ll have you out of the country before you can even contact a lawyer or your family, let alone have a court hearing. Their legal justification is just to provide plausible deniability if it ever makes it to the news cycle.

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        You’re just making that up. The person this was supposed to go to has been told they will be deported if they don’t self deport. The punishment if they don’t will be to be deported.

        There’s no extra punishment.

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      I can’t wait to use this to scare my MAGA neighbors. Thanks for the template.

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          It’s like you guys think that spam filters don’t exist lol. All that would happen is that your email address would get blocked by spam filters going forward and no one will receive your emails.

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        From the article:

        In a statement, a senior DHS official said notices may have been accidentally sent to US citizens if their contact information was submitted by migrants — calling it a case of “unintended recipients.” The agency insisted it would address such issues individually.

        It is not being used against citizens. This citizen had his email address put down as the contact email by an immigrant who was on temporary parole into the country.

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      Down the bottom, click to report as spam, ez

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    having a non-western anglo saxon name is enough to get deported.

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    This is like the 4th, maybe 5th time this has happened. (They we’ve heard about)

    They’ll claim it’s a mistake eventually I’m sure. But it’s far past a pattern at this point

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    For some reason this little nugget is kept right for the end of the article:

    In a statement, a senior DHS official said notices may have been accidentally sent to US citizens if their contact information was submitted by migrants — calling it a case of “unintended recipients.” The agency insisted it would address such issues individually.

    So he’s fine since he’s a born and bred citizen who isn’t on parole, and it was clearly sent to him in error because a migrant who has broken their parole put this guys email down as his contact email.

    If I received an email saying that my parole has been overturned and I need to self deport, I wouldn’t be worried because I’m not on parole nor am I an immigrant. I’d simply contact them and it would be cleared up. Theyd see that my email was put down as these contact email of someone else, and I’d go on my merry way.