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    wow, so surprised. And after it being a complete tool for getting Trump elected too. Flabbergasted, I say.

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      Exactly the opposite lesson to take. We need public social media, not corporate social media. We need rights and guarantees, not profit taking and psyops.

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        I like having a bunch of nonprofits because if one turns bad, I can switch. Your idea will work better if the state becomes controlled by the public.

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    Keep using it! That’ll fix it! It’s like when a company gives you shitty service you keep giving them your business and eventually they’ll give you good service!

    That’s how it works, right?

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      Sometimes you don’t even realize you’re on it. I watched a clip on a news article. I was mildly surprised that the X branding only showed up after I started watching the clip. That clip was fine, it wasn’t even really political. Then it auto played Alex Jones talking about Democrats being traitors and trying to destroy the country.

      So when the fuck did they start removing branding on embedded stuff? And then when the fuck did they start trying to auto play videos? And videos from a completely different account and subject matter?

      If they’re that shady just visiting the website I don’t even want to think about what their apps are doing.

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        Not sure how you got away with that… Every single time I have been forced to use Twitter for a video, it has been an awful experience. Their video player is one of the worst modern video players I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Plus they gate everything behind a login nowadays, so even embedded players in news articles won’t work unless you sign in first. Twitter is rapidly becoming Pinterest for fascists; It grabs content, then walls it behind a login page.

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        That’s not a problem. It’s the interaction and posting that gives them power and content. Simply never interact with the site actively.

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          As far as trying to kill the site yeah. But it’s a pretty big problem if someone thinks Alex Jones is being endorsed by a reputable news site. And you only know it’s Alex Jones if you know his voice and know to check the corner for an account name.

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      This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.

      They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users

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        Social media addiction is widespread. Once these sites get their hooks in their users, they will keep coming back to the site no matter how it makes them feel. It takes a conscious effort to either wean off or go cold-turkey on a particular site. Many get lazy or too comfortable to make the switch.

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            The important stuff to you might not be the important stuff to someone else. And not everything gets reposted.

            I’m not saying that’s a good reason to stay on Twitter, but I am saying it’s a big reason people stay.

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      As soon as Musk bought it I reactivated my long-dormant account so that I could delete it properly, I can’t understand why so many people are using X.

      You’re all patrons of the nazi bar, only in this case the nazis bought the bar. Twitter is dead. Migrate to somewhere else like you probably have multiple times before if you’ve been on the Internet for any amount of time.

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        I still have an account, but I’ve only ever posted 6 times and haven’t deleted it because I don’t wanna jump through the hoops of “sign in to see this content”, also because once and a while I’ll see a linked tweet about a game or artist or something and give it a heart

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          My advice would be to just block it in an adblocker browser plugin. Even if it only takes two extra clicks it does wonders to get you into the “do I really need to see this” mindset.

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      I offered to help anyone on Facebook migrate with me to mastodon who wanted to. These are people I’ve known across three towns and five different jobs. I’ve gotten and given leads and references for jobs from and to so many of them, and hope to in the future. That’s the only reason I even still have Facebook. I’m about to completely call it quits and wipe everything off the account and just leave a pinned post on my profile with a link to a mastodon profile with my real name.

      I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like. I mentioned it on a post by an LGBT content creator I’ve kept up with since I worked with her ages ago. She’s been building up a portfolio of reviews of everything from beauty products to sex toys and has actually gotten some pretty interesting brand deals lately. She’d never even heard of mastodon.

      These big social media sites are so ingrained in people’s lives in so many different ways. Ultimately you’re right but every time I see a comment like this it gives…

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        I hate Facebook but I need it for local shit. I don’t use the timeline and I don’t post, but I need it for marketplace and for a locals forum.

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        I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like.

        I suspect many platforms detect and shadowban content like this, or at least demote it or restrict its visibility. It’s what I would do if I ran an unethical social media platform trying to increase the number of active users.

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        If you got zero engagement when your friends normally at least drop a thumbs up then that post never showed up on anyone’s feeds.

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        Meh, there are a bajillion other ways to participate in society. Not the same thing at all. I’ve been off Facebook for over fifteen years now and it’s been great. I text or call people, and if they care about me they do the same. Sometimes I even get cards in the mail still. It’s wonderful.

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      Meta is even worse.

      Even people who were/are on the right are noticing it.

      Tom Segura isn’t a great guy, but I saw a clip of one of his podcasts where they were talking about Instagram. Any post anyway related to a Black person is just gonna be filled with comments saying the n word.

      As fucked up as it is, TikTok appears to be the only big one that’s removed hate speech for a while now. It’s just become incredibly normalized which is why the wealthy keep gobbling up social media.

      They want a race war, a culture war, anything to stop 99% of the population from figuring out the 1% have been fighting a class war for decades.

      It’s all a distraction to stop people from talking about why billionaires are fucking over everyone else and we’re not stopping it.

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        Can you elaborate on ‘Tom Segura isn’t a great guy’? I think he’s funny and I’m wondering if there’s something I’m missing.

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          It’s not like he’s a giant asshole himself…

          But he’s friends with Joe Rogan and agrees with him on a lot of stuff. And has said he enjoys “trolling” even about racial issues.

          So he’s at best just tolerable of assholes with extremist views, which is why it was notable even he has pointed out how bad social media is getting.

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          Tom Segura

          Went on a tirade talking about “the poors” after he got told to check in his carry-on on a flight

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      I think its hidden with a message that it contains something sensitive and you actively have to click on show to show it. Not sure though as I’m not on Xitter anymore.

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    People, please stop using twitter. Stop giving your attention and money to terrible people. Some people, like that white lady, are weak-minded and they will never learn.

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        I agree completely. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the racist rapist traitor felon just won the popular freaking vote in the country the site is based in.

        So even though I deleted my account a long time ago and so did half the people here, the idea of not using xitter because it’s run by a nazi hasn’t even entered into most people’s minds to be considered in the first place.

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        If your question wasn’t rhetorical, addiction is one reason I can think of. Folks are tied up in a certain kind of Feed depending on the places they go online, and twitter/facebook are aggressively designed to make you stay, right? It might be as emotionally daunting as a smoker knowing they should quit. idk - I was lucky to not invest any time with those platforms, but I have kicked one addiction and failed to quit others, so I have some sympathy if that’s what’s holding people back.

        Another reason is rubbernecking at the car crash. People are still on twitter because it’s where all the drama people/news are talking about IS.

        Other than that? Nazis are there to be accellerationists, and internet debate club folks are there to perform civilized discourse (“so someone reading in the future can see that the nazi was wrong”).

        If your question was rhetorical, my bad.

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          When I got banned from Instagram I went through actual withdrawal. I was very upset, I felt cut off from the world and digitally exiled. I still do. If I was desperate enough I could of made another account but after a decade+ with the same account - which got banned for standing up to Nazis and fascists - I gave up. Fuck Zuck. The same happened to me on Reddit too.

          The technofascists hate leftists, they shadow ban them, they block their accounts, they ban at the isp level. They are propagandizing millions of people into right wing bullshit and worse.

          I don’t have tik tok because I don’t trust China nor an algorithm as addictive as it but there’s a reason it’s being banned in the US: it doesn’t ban leftist content and in fact likely promotes it. Our oligarchs can’t allow that to happen. Class consciousness must be prevented at all costs or they lose their power.

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        Different people have different levels of tolerance to fecal matter. Some absolutely love the shit.

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    every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter

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      Yeah! I like my fake validation and fake likes from anonymous friends over here on lemmy. Fake friends are overrated.

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        the secret is i don’t think anyone on lemmy is my friend. i find everyone here frustrating and annoying! the system works!

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            Damn,… Ruffalo looks young in this picture… then I realize, he was and we all got fucking old. This was 13 years ago!!!

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              Yep! Wait until you have kids that are older than your co-workers.

              Source: My kids are older than many of my co-workers. It sucks.

              The only way to fight it is to stay fit as fuck. Oh and retire early like I did. Takes some of the pain out of getting older!

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                Exactly my plan my friend! Why bother grinding if you can’t afford anything? Better grind less and live more.

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                  I did that and “retired” to a ski resort in my mid 20s and pursued snowboarding instead. I’ve worked a variety of odd jobs to feed the habit and I’m lucky to be talented enough to be flowed gear.

                  If working a corporate 40 hr a week job that requires a degree doesn’t pay enough for me to move out of my moms house in NY and get an apt of my own somewhere nearby then fuck it, I’ll take some nonsense jobs and move to where I want and leave the grind entirely. My life is their $20k vacation. I’ve had more powder days than those rats in the race.

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                  Agreed. I basically took early retirement–I’m 55.

                  My pension is small since I bailed early, but I have zero debt, and very few bills, so I get by just fine. My kids are grown. My house and cars are paid off. Property taxes here are very low.

                  Sure, I won’t be traveling the world, but the park next to my house is beautiful, and I can see the mountains from my front porch. All is good.

                  Good luck to ya, mate!

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        There’s a pretty big difference between drinking mild poisons at a Nazi bar and a local bar. Zoomed out, sure, drinking alcohol at all can be considered pretty dubious, but the difference between the two scenarios remains.

        edit: replace what autocorrect put as “consistent” to “considered”

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      The dumbass kid at work “I just use it for the art profiles I follow.” Not worth it kid, not worth it at all.