This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.
They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users
I avoid all FB products but it’s a pain in the ass when every business assumes that everyone has FB or Instagram. Local bakery closing due to poor weather? Instagram. Schedule for the small festival I’m attending later in the day? Instagram. Up to date hours for a local small restaurant? FB. Any contests or giveaways from any of the small businesses I patronize? Instagram. And friends with kids complain that their kid’s schools all use FB for critical info.
And it’s damn near impossible to really engage with the pottery community without Instagram. It’s really the defacto communication medium for publicizing any artists or craftspeople who are below the high end gallery representation level or the decent sized company level.
Part of it is entrenchment. I never did the Twitter thing. Quit Instagram simply cuz I thought the app sucked. Ditched Reddit for Lemmy because Reddit is a cesspool that gives WAY too much power to dipshit moderators.
But I’m still on Facebook simply because I use it to plan birthdays and other events because its interface for events is pretty useful and more people I know are on Facebook than other apps, so it’s just really the best option for events. I don’t use it for anything else anymore, but it wins when it comes to events. It also reminds me of people’s birthdays.
Entrenchment is why a lot of big names and reporters stay on Twitter. They’ve got so many followers it’s hard to try to get all of them to migrate.
I will say this though. If Facebook was operated by someone like Musk in the way he operates it, I’d force myself t pull the plug. Zuckerfuck isn’t great, but he hasn’t trashed Facebook to quite the degree Musk has trashed Twitter…yet.
I don’t get it here. It’d probably take you an afternoon to put everyone’s birthday in a spreadsheet or calendar, and then you’ve made some effort to actually learning their birthdays, leading to a somewhat more personal connection with that person.
it’s just really the best option for events
I feel like this is just confirmation bias. At this point it’s literally a prisoner’s dilemma between your social circle. You could all leave and have a better atmosphere and platform, but if you left alone you’d be missing out. FOMO, etc.
I’m probably biased here as well, as my age group has left Facebook, but all I really see on facebook are big announcements like engagements, childbirths and have contacts with only distant friends that I don’t really care much about, so leaving is “easy”
Zuckerfuck isn’t great, but he hasn’t trashed Facebook to quite the degree Musk has trashed Twitter…
This is crazy because before Musk changed twitter so dramatically, Facebook was the exemplar of a bad trash platform. I have to agree that Twitter might be worse now, though.
I don’t get it here. It’d probably take you an afternoon to put everyone’s birthday in a spreadsheet or calendar
Yeah, but that’s part of what I’m talking about. It’s already done for me without me lifting a finger. I don’t have to enter all that data. I don’t have to make my own spreadsheet and keep it in multiple locations for retention. I don’t have to use Google calendar since I could probably find something about Google that’s less than desirable. I mean if it was JUST birthdays, I’d pull the plug. But the events thing is pretty clutch. And time is a factor too. I’ve been on Facebook since the beginning. There are quite a few people I would permanently lose if I ditched Facebook. People I’m not that close to but still shoot them a message once in a blue moon. And I think a lot of people can find that ONE thing that keeps them on a platform. It took me a while to move on from Reddit simply because it has so much more content than any competitor.
If Zuck started allowing the hard R’s on Facebook and started getting really hands on like Musk, personally banning people he doesn’t like and constantly posting the dumbest shit imaginable, I’d have to force myself to pull the plug on Facebook. But I’m not quite there yet.
You could all leave and have a better atmosphere and platform
See, I’ve already witnessed this not working. My friends group had a big group chat on Facebook Messenger. One friend decided he was done with Facebook and essentially demanded everyone get Signal to keep in touch with him. It took a month to get people to switch over and form a new group chat and a few friends flat out refused and now we all have to message them separately and they aren’t part of the group discussions anymore and there have been instances where they didn’t know a thing was happening because we all forgot to message them separately about it.
I’m probably biased here as well, as my age group has left Facebook
I think this is a big part. Like I said, my friends and I have been on Facebook for 20 years. It’s been a lot easier for me to quit other platforms I haven’t been on that long.
before Musk changed twitter so dramatically, Facebook was the exemplar of a bad trash platform
Social media addiction is widespread. Once these sites get their hooks in their users, they will keep coming back to the site no matter how it makes them feel. It takes a conscious effort to either wean off or go cold-turkey on a particular site. Many get lazy or too comfortable to make the switch.
As soon as Musk bought it I reactivated my long-dormant account so that I could delete it properly, I can’t understand why so many people are using X.
You’re all patrons of the nazi bar, only in this case the nazis bought the bar. Twitter is dead. Migrate to somewhere else like you probably have multiple times before if you’ve been on the Internet for any amount of time.
I still have an account, but I’ve only ever posted 6 times and haven’t deleted it because I don’t wanna jump through the hoops of “sign in to see this content”, also because once and a while I’ll see a linked tweet about a game or artist or something and give it a heart
My advice would be to just block it in an adblocker browser plugin. Even if it only takes two extra clicks it does wonders to get you into the “do I really need to see this” mindset.
I offered to help anyone on Facebook migrate with me to mastodon who wanted to. These are people I’ve known across three towns, five different jobs, and 3 schools between highschool, college, and university. I’ve gotten and given leads and references for jobs from and to so many of them, and hope to in the future. That’s the only reason I even still have Facebook. I’m about to completely call it quits and wipe everything off the account and just leave a pinned post on my profile with a link to a mastodon profile with my real name.
I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like. I mentioned it on a post by an LGBT content creator I’ve kept up with since I worked with her ages ago. She’s been building up a portfolio of reviews of everything from beauty products to sex toys and has actually gotten some pretty interesting brand deals lately. She’d never even heard of mastodon.
These big social media sites are so ingrained in people’s lives in so many different ways. Ultimately you’re right but every time I see a comment like this it gives…
I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like.
I suspect many platforms detect and shadowban content like this, or at least demote it or restrict its visibility. It’s what I would do if I ran an unethical social media platform trying to increase the number of active users.
Meh, there are a bajillion other ways to participate in society. Not the same thing at all. I’ve been off Facebook for over fifteen years now and it’s been great. I text or call people, and if they care about me they do the same. Sometimes I even get cards in the mail still. It’s wonderful.
Yet you continue to use it…
This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.
They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users
I avoid all FB products but it’s a pain in the ass when every business assumes that everyone has FB or Instagram. Local bakery closing due to poor weather? Instagram. Schedule for the small festival I’m attending later in the day? Instagram. Up to date hours for a local small restaurant? FB. Any contests or giveaways from any of the small businesses I patronize? Instagram. And friends with kids complain that their kid’s schools all use FB for critical info.
And it’s damn near impossible to really engage with the pottery community without Instagram. It’s really the defacto communication medium for publicizing any artists or craftspeople who are below the high end gallery representation level or the decent sized company level.
Part of it is entrenchment. I never did the Twitter thing. Quit Instagram simply cuz I thought the app sucked. Ditched Reddit for Lemmy because Reddit is a cesspool that gives WAY too much power to dipshit moderators.
But I’m still on Facebook simply because I use it to plan birthdays and other events because its interface for events is pretty useful and more people I know are on Facebook than other apps, so it’s just really the best option for events. I don’t use it for anything else anymore, but it wins when it comes to events. It also reminds me of people’s birthdays.
Entrenchment is why a lot of big names and reporters stay on Twitter. They’ve got so many followers it’s hard to try to get all of them to migrate.
I will say this though. If Facebook was operated by someone like Musk in the way he operates it, I’d force myself t pull the plug. Zuckerfuck isn’t great, but he hasn’t trashed Facebook to quite the degree Musk has trashed Twitter…yet.
I don’t get it here. It’d probably take you an afternoon to put everyone’s birthday in a spreadsheet or calendar, and then you’ve made some effort to actually learning their birthdays, leading to a somewhat more personal connection with that person.
I feel like this is just confirmation bias. At this point it’s literally a prisoner’s dilemma between your social circle. You could all leave and have a better atmosphere and platform, but if you left alone you’d be missing out. FOMO, etc.
I’m probably biased here as well, as my age group has left Facebook, but all I really see on facebook are big announcements like engagements, childbirths and have contacts with only distant friends that I don’t really care much about, so leaving is “easy”
This is crazy because before Musk changed twitter so dramatically, Facebook was the exemplar of a bad trash platform. I have to agree that Twitter might be worse now, though.
Yeah, but that’s part of what I’m talking about. It’s already done for me without me lifting a finger. I don’t have to enter all that data. I don’t have to make my own spreadsheet and keep it in multiple locations for retention. I don’t have to use Google calendar since I could probably find something about Google that’s less than desirable. I mean if it was JUST birthdays, I’d pull the plug. But the events thing is pretty clutch. And time is a factor too. I’ve been on Facebook since the beginning. There are quite a few people I would permanently lose if I ditched Facebook. People I’m not that close to but still shoot them a message once in a blue moon. And I think a lot of people can find that ONE thing that keeps them on a platform. It took me a while to move on from Reddit simply because it has so much more content than any competitor.
If Zuck started allowing the hard R’s on Facebook and started getting really hands on like Musk, personally banning people he doesn’t like and constantly posting the dumbest shit imaginable, I’d have to force myself to pull the plug on Facebook. But I’m not quite there yet.
See, I’ve already witnessed this not working. My friends group had a big group chat on Facebook Messenger. One friend decided he was done with Facebook and essentially demanded everyone get Signal to keep in touch with him. It took a month to get people to switch over and form a new group chat and a few friends flat out refused and now we all have to message them separately and they aren’t part of the group discussions anymore and there have been instances where they didn’t know a thing was happening because we all forgot to message them separately about it.
I think this is a big part. Like I said, my friends and I have been on Facebook for 20 years. It’s been a lot easier for me to quit other platforms I haven’t been on that long.
Yeah, Musk really lowered the bar.
Even with facebook’s recent TOS changes?
As far as I know you still can’t get away with the hard R on Facebook. And Zuckerfuck isn’t personally banning people that upset him like Musk does.
Two shitholes, but not equal.
Social media addiction is widespread. Once these sites get their hooks in their users, they will keep coming back to the site no matter how it makes them feel. It takes a conscious effort to either wean off or go cold-turkey on a particular site. Many get lazy or too comfortable to make the switch.
FOMO is incredibly powerful unfortunately.
The important stuff will be reposted on another platform. It’s the whole point of [email protected]
The important stuff to you might not be the important stuff to someone else. And not everything gets reposted.
I’m not saying that’s a good reason to stay on Twitter, but I am saying it’s a big reason people stay.
As soon as Musk bought it I reactivated my long-dormant account so that I could delete it properly, I can’t understand why so many people are using X.
You’re all patrons of the nazi bar, only in this case the nazis bought the bar. Twitter is dead. Migrate to somewhere else like you probably have multiple times before if you’ve been on the Internet for any amount of time.
I still have an account, but I’ve only ever posted 6 times and haven’t deleted it because I don’t wanna jump through the hoops of “sign in to see this content”, also because once and a while I’ll see a linked tweet about a game or artist or something and give it a heart
My advice would be to just block it in an adblocker browser plugin. Even if it only takes two extra clicks it does wonders to get you into the “do I really need to see this” mindset.
I offered to help anyone on Facebook migrate with me to mastodon who wanted to. These are people I’ve known across three towns, five different jobs, and 3 schools between highschool, college, and university. I’ve gotten and given leads and references for jobs from and to so many of them, and hope to in the future. That’s the only reason I even still have Facebook. I’m about to completely call it quits and wipe everything off the account and just leave a pinned post on my profile with a link to a mastodon profile with my real name.
I put out the first version of that post while I’m getting my data fully packed up. Not a single response. Not even a like. I mentioned it on a post by an LGBT content creator I’ve kept up with since I worked with her ages ago. She’s been building up a portfolio of reviews of everything from beauty products to sex toys and has actually gotten some pretty interesting brand deals lately. She’d never even heard of mastodon.
These big social media sites are so ingrained in people’s lives in so many different ways. Ultimately you’re right but every time I see a comment like this it gives…
I hate Facebook but I need it for local shit. I don’t use the timeline and I don’t post, but I need it for marketplace and for a locals forum.
exactly
I suspect many platforms detect and shadowban content like this, or at least demote it or restrict its visibility. It’s what I would do if I ran an unethical social media platform trying to increase the number of active users.
That was my suspicion.
If you got zero engagement when your friends normally at least drop a thumbs up then that post never showed up on anyone’s feeds.
You just have me the idea to maybe at least poke everyone though. Maybe that will help…
Meh, there are a bajillion other ways to participate in society. Not the same thing at all. I’ve been off Facebook for over fifteen years now and it’s been great. I text or call people, and if they care about me they do the same. Sometimes I even get cards in the mail still. It’s wonderful.