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    I wish it wasn’t so tragic, so I could laugh at people who couldn’t vote for Harris because Biden didn’t single-handedly stop the genocide.

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            There’s always some real humans duped by the bots and at this point they have 2 choices: accept they were duped or go all in.

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          Now the same accounts are blaming democrats for not going far enough left. I think the goal is to push democrats and republicans so far apart on the political spectrum that nothing gets done.

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        But happily downvoting. I hope all the terrorist simps here are happy for going after Harris, because this is the result they consequently wanted.

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        No, your admin and mods banned those accounts in the lead up to the election under the reason “troll,” because you people (meant as offensively as reasonable) can’t take opposing view points or the guilt of explicitly supporting genocide.

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    Face palm. It’s fucking tragic what is about to escalate for the Palestinians. I hope all the people that blathered on with nonsense about “Genocide Joe” are able to do some self-reflection.

    FFS.

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          There’s been basically no change in the posting about Palestine since the election, but these people (including this two month old account) have a narrative in their head and won’t let reality intervene.

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            I think there’s another narrative that just assumes Trump will be significantly different from what Kamala would have been.

            What can Trump do that Biden/Kamala haven’t already? Much is being made about Trump sitting by while Netanyahu annexes large chunks of the West Bank. But that’s already been happening.

            There has been much made about Trump potentially allowing Israel to annex parts of Gaza. But Biden has sat back and let Israel completely ethnically cleanse northern Gaza. If Biden/Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop an ethnic cleansing, what makes you think they would do anything when Israel files some paperwork to formally annex land? Hundreds of thousands of people area dead. I’m sorry, but compared to that, a little paperwork to formally take territory is a minor crime indeed.

            War with Iran? Israel doesn’t want a war with Iran. They’ve been playing a careful tit-for-tat game with Tehran, trying to save face while avoiding an all-out war. And there’s little evidence Trump would get the US involved if a full war did start.

            I mean really, what exactly do you expect Trump to do that Biden/Harris already haven’t? They’ve given Israel a complete blank check. I think we tend to just assume because he’s overtly racist against Muslims that he is going to be worse for the Palestinians. Yes, Biden and Harris aren’t overtly racist against the Muslims. But in terms of their actual actions, I can’t think of anything Trump can do that they already haven’t.

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              People think that Israel ethnic cleansing of 2 million people in a few months is worse than ethnic cleansing them over 4 years!

              If Biden set any form of red line, or at least Blinken wasn’t bluntly lying everytime he goes there or the US didn’t Veto UN resolutions to “allow aid” maybe we can argue the dem would be better but as stand nothing will change.

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              I don’t think Biden and Harris are the same person. I think she was cowardly but I also think she wants to be hip and loved and could have been shamed with sustained pressure. Not a sure thing, and likely to be weak sauce, but a possibility. I don’t see that as likely with either Biden or Trump. And the possibility of stopping something as big as genocide and permanent land grabs is much better than no chance at all.

              But I also don’t blame Arabs for voting (or not voting) emotionally for the actions of Biden and the inaction of Harris now. Don’t kill someone’s family and then ask them to think of the bigger picture.

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      Seeing as biden gave billions in support of israel while they carried out this genocide for over a year, the moniker is well-earned. Hopefully you do some self-reflection to realize that both parties full-throatedly support israel. The other guy being worse is not an excuse to support genocide. Democrats will keep talking about how much worse republicans are while moving to the right in pace with them.

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    I, for one, am shocked. Shocked I tell you.

    Who could have guessed Trump would appoint somebody who doesn’t recognize the victims of genocide as real people? It’s not like Trump called pro-Palestinians protestor “pro-Hamas thugs” and “jihad sympathizers” or said “I will give Israel the support that it needs to win but I do want them to win fast” or called attempts by Biden to negotiate a cease fire an attempt to “tie Israel’s hand behind its back”.

    How could anybody have known? By looking at how he handled conflicts in the area during his first administration? What are we? A nation of nerds that try to make educated decisions about our political leaders?

    /s

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      What real difference does this make though? I honestly don’t see what actually is going to change in Gaza. Yes, Biden isn’t overtly racist against Palestinians, but he doesn’t consider them human beings either. He’s given Israel a complete blank check to do whatever they want. And I expect that to continue unchanged under Trump. As a practical matter, I really don’t see what Trump can do that Biden already hasn’t. Trump will just be a lot ruder about it.

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          Nope, a vote for Harris is a vote for the complete destruction of the Palestinian people. Harris was very clear in her campaign, it was one of the only thing she was consistent about.

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            As long as you ignore all the times she called for a ceasefire, sure.

            Just like Spider-Man was just a guy, if you ignore all the super powers.

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              A temporary ceasefire isn’t a ceasefire, it’s a rearming period for Israel that they will violate first. As much as you people hate to admit it, history did not start on 10/7. Israel has always violated its ceasefires.

              More importantly, most importantly, Harris stated repeatedly she would not change from Biden’s policy on Israel, which is unlimited unrestricted arms with no red lines, so by Harris’ own campaign she would have continued armi g Israel after Israel violated whatever ceasefire, if Hamas ever allowed such a predictable set up to happen again.

              Israel fucking bombed an embassy in a third party country for fucks sake.

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    Mike fucking Huckabee… The next four years going to be a remake of American Psycho 2, live on stage.

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      It’s weird that he’s still even a thing in politics. He’s recently just been running some irrelevant conservatism for kids grift. Why would he even be on the list of people to elevate?