Face palm. It’s fucking tragic what is about to escalate for the Palestinians. I hope all the people that blathered on with nonsense about “Genocide Joe” are able to do some self-reflection.
There’s been basically no change in the posting about Palestine since the election, but these people (including this two month old account) have a narrative in their head and won’t let reality intervene.
I think there’s another narrative that just assumes Trump will be significantly different from what Kamala would have been.
What can Trump do that Biden/Kamala haven’t already? Much is being made about Trump sitting by while Netanyahu annexes large chunks of the West Bank. But that’s already been happening.
There has been much made about Trump potentially allowing Israel to annex parts of Gaza. But Biden has sat back and let Israel completely ethnically cleanse northern Gaza. If Biden/Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop an ethnic cleansing, what makes you think they would do anything when Israel files some paperwork to formally annex land? Hundreds of thousands of people area dead. I’m sorry, but compared to that, a little paperwork to formally take territory is a minor crime indeed.
War with Iran? Israel doesn’t want a war with Iran. They’ve been playing a careful tit-for-tat game with Tehran, trying to save face while avoiding an all-out war. And there’s little evidence Trump would get the US involved if a full war did start.
I mean really, what exactly do you expect Trump to do that Biden/Harris already haven’t? They’ve given Israel a complete blank check. I think we tend to just assume because he’s overtly racist against Muslims that he is going to be worse for the Palestinians. Yes, Biden and Harris aren’t overtly racist against the Muslims. But in terms of their actual actions, I can’t think of anything Trump can do that they already haven’t.
You have no understanding of soft power or geopolitics. Trump just being elected (not even in charge yet) has already emboldened Netanyahu and his cronies. They are already talking about annexing the West Bank.
See, this is how you are going to try to innoculate yourself from any kind of guilt here, and I will not allow it.
You don’t get to just pretend that “well, we can never really know if Kamala would have been different” while Palestinians are eradicated from the face of the planet you fucking clown.
People think that Israel ethnic cleansing of 2 million people in a few months is worse than ethnic cleansing them over 4 years!
If Biden set any form of red line, or at least Blinken wasn’t bluntly lying everytime he goes there or the US didn’t Veto UN resolutions to “allow aid” maybe we can argue the dem would be better but as stand nothing will change.
People think that Israel ethnic cleansing of 2 million people in a few months is worse than ethnic cleansing them over 4 years!
First of all, it will be far more than 2 million people.
But also, yes! Fucking yes, of course it is worse! What?!? Are you fucking joking??
Holy shit people are delusional. You don’t get to just say “well, we can’t know if a Democrat would be different,” and absolve yourself from your responsibility in this. When will be the point where you realize (yet I’m sure continue to refuse to admit in an attempt to preserve your own sanity perhaps)? Will it be when they annex the West Bank (like immediately after 1/20, they’re already talking about it)? Will it be when the slaughtering of Palestinians gets kicked into high gear, and the real elimination begins?
You will live with the results of your actions (or inaction). There will be a point, and it won’t take long, where nobody who is honest with themselves will be able to claim that we can’t know if Kamala would be better or worse.
I don’t think Biden and Harris are the same person. I think she was cowardly but I also think she wants to be hip and loved and could have been shamed with sustained pressure. Not a sure thing, and likely to be weak sauce, but a possibility. I don’t see that as likely with either Biden or Trump. And the possibility of stopping something as big as genocide and permanent land grabs is much better than no chance at all.
But I also don’t blame Arabs for voting (or not voting) emotionally for the actions of Biden and the inaction of Harris now. Don’t kill someone’s family and then ask them to think of the bigger picture.
Seeing as biden gave billions in support of israel while they carried out this genocide for over a year, the moniker is well-earned. Hopefully you do some self-reflection to realize that both parties full-throatedly support israel. The other guy being worse is not an excuse to support genocide. Democrats will keep talking about how much worse republicans are while moving to the right in pace with them.
Face palm. It’s fucking tragic what is about to escalate for the Palestinians. I hope all the people that blathered on with nonsense about “Genocide Joe” are able to do some self-reflection.
FFS.
Surprising no one they all vanished back into nothing.
Like the “swift boat veterans for truth”
Lmao fuck off with that. We’re still here.
There’s been basically no change in the posting about Palestine since the election, but these people (including this two month old account) have a narrative in their head and won’t let reality intervene.
I think there’s another narrative that just assumes Trump will be significantly different from what Kamala would have been.
What can Trump do that Biden/Kamala haven’t already? Much is being made about Trump sitting by while Netanyahu annexes large chunks of the West Bank. But that’s already been happening.
There has been much made about Trump potentially allowing Israel to annex parts of Gaza. But Biden has sat back and let Israel completely ethnically cleanse northern Gaza. If Biden/Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop an ethnic cleansing, what makes you think they would do anything when Israel files some paperwork to formally annex land? Hundreds of thousands of people area dead. I’m sorry, but compared to that, a little paperwork to formally take territory is a minor crime indeed.
War with Iran? Israel doesn’t want a war with Iran. They’ve been playing a careful tit-for-tat game with Tehran, trying to save face while avoiding an all-out war. And there’s little evidence Trump would get the US involved if a full war did start.
I mean really, what exactly do you expect Trump to do that Biden/Harris already haven’t? They’ve given Israel a complete blank check. I think we tend to just assume because he’s overtly racist against Muslims that he is going to be worse for the Palestinians. Yes, Biden and Harris aren’t overtly racist against the Muslims. But in terms of their actual actions, I can’t think of anything Trump can do that they already haven’t.
You have no understanding of soft power or geopolitics. Trump just being elected (not even in charge yet) has already emboldened Netanyahu and his cronies. They are already talking about annexing the West Bank.
See, this is how you are going to try to innoculate yourself from any kind of guilt here, and I will not allow it.
You don’t get to just pretend that “well, we can never really know if Kamala would have been different” while Palestinians are eradicated from the face of the planet you fucking clown.
People think that Israel ethnic cleansing of 2 million people in a few months is worse than ethnic cleansing them over 4 years!
If Biden set any form of red line, or at least Blinken wasn’t bluntly lying everytime he goes there or the US didn’t Veto UN resolutions to “allow aid” maybe we can argue the dem would be better but as stand nothing will change.
First of all, it will be far more than 2 million people.
But also, yes! Fucking yes, of course it is worse! What?!? Are you fucking joking??
Holy shit people are delusional. You don’t get to just say “well, we can’t know if a Democrat would be different,” and absolve yourself from your responsibility in this. When will be the point where you realize (yet I’m sure continue to refuse to admit in an attempt to preserve your own sanity perhaps)? Will it be when they annex the West Bank (like immediately after 1/20, they’re already talking about it)? Will it be when the slaughtering of Palestinians gets kicked into high gear, and the real elimination begins?
You will live with the results of your actions (or inaction). There will be a point, and it won’t take long, where nobody who is honest with themselves will be able to claim that we can’t know if Kamala would be better or worse.
I don’t think Biden and Harris are the same person. I think she was cowardly but I also think she wants to be hip and loved and could have been shamed with sustained pressure. Not a sure thing, and likely to be weak sauce, but a possibility. I don’t see that as likely with either Biden or Trump. And the possibility of stopping something as big as genocide and permanent land grabs is much better than no chance at all.
But I also don’t blame Arabs for voting (or not voting) emotionally for the actions of Biden and the inaction of Harris now. Don’t kill someone’s family and then ask them to think of the bigger picture.
Seeing as biden gave billions in support of israel while they carried out this genocide for over a year, the moniker is well-earned. Hopefully you do some self-reflection to realize that both parties full-throatedly support israel. The other guy being worse is not an excuse to support genocide. Democrats will keep talking about how much worse republicans are while moving to the right in pace with them.