The real joke is that the Trump campaign is tripping over itself now to disavow this message. Meanwhile it’s come to light that this “comedian” was going to drop a c-bomb in his material in reference to Kamala, but the Trump campaign told him to remove it, and he complied.
Meaning they vetted the material and were a-fuckin’-ok with garbage island, only to later lie more and try to backpedal.
They’re not even good at lying, kids.
Edit: spelling
I’m still baffled by the logic of having a roaster/crowd work guy doing a set at a convention. Like… he was gonna insult people and start shit. It’s literally his job.
He’s not my cup of tea, but he’s been around and successful for a while now. He’s not an unknown entity who they could claim acted unpredictable.
Eminem spoke at a Harris rally. But he’s an adult who cares about people and expects as much from his government.
Did he throw shade at European-Americans?
I didn’t watch because it’s a republican political rally but he usually talks shit about other white people in the form of self deprecating humor in the shorts that get passed through my algorithm, so … maybe? It doesn’t help matters much though if he did, and it wouldn’t be on the same level as calling the whole island trash.
Usually racial comedy can be fun when it takes advantage of knowledge of the in crowd. Like you couldn’t really know to make fun of something unless you yourself were a fan of it. Like there are fun ways to joke around about cultures you love. He wasn’t doing that.
is a “c-bomb” a cunt ?
Some people find that word to be too misogynistic to use as an epithet. I’m not quite sure where I stand on that myself, but I tend to avoid it overall.
I’m not British so I cannot use it in the proper manner. Literally the only demographic that can get away with it being an 8/10 on the Carlin index of offense terminology. If you aren’t British it’s pretty much a 10.
In the context of the US, it most certainly is. Other places, maybe not so much.
Let me guess… the setup was going to be about the pronunciation of her name, and then he would pronounce it “Cuntmala.”
These guys are Hi-Larious…
Last I saw they just claim it’s just comedy and the left wing has no sense of humor
They’d absolutely hate shows like Brooklyn 99 because there aren’t really any racist jokes, and it’s too “woke” for them
How many jokes about Christians or conservatives did he do? Zero?! Why’s that? Answer those questions.
This isn’t even good racism. This is like, 2000s-era ironic racism. Which was about as funny as Holocaust jokes, and aged about as well as Anne Frank.
Where’s the hateful, KKK, lynchmob racism? Don’t just casually half ass it. Show your real murican colors. Y’all are living like American History X and you give us Wayne Brady on Chapelles Show.
I used to know someone who is half Puerto Rican, her dad is a marine, her mom is full PR. And they are ALL hardcore right wingers.
Even they wouldn’t switch votes after this.
“Surely he didn’t mean me, he meant those other sons of bitches who happen to look like me.” - Idiots practicing idiot logic.
“Must have confused us with Mexicans again. Damn Mexicans!”
This is a PR nightmare.
No it is not. Guaranteed Trump Puerto Rican voters agree. They just think it’s the other Puerto Ricians that are making it that way.
Puerto Rican voters
Does someone else want to tell atempuser23?
Good thing there’s only 5 million people who once lived in Puerto Rico in the 50 states and hundreds of thousands in Pennsylvania particularly
1.7% nationally isn’t much when spread out. I’m sure there are districts out there which are predominantly Puerto Rican, I just don’t think they’re a significantly large group.
Which is why I fully support making them a state and giving them due representation.
In a close election, any decent percentage matters and they are not spread out evenly at all. For instance, there are 500,000 in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania was won by only 42k in 2016
Plus a million in Florida - that can make the florida senate race a little more competitive. New York downballot races are a big part of why dems lost the house in 2022, and there’s also around a million in New York
They should certainly have representation, yes, but that’s not to say the Puerto Ricans in swing states / competitive downballot won’t matter either
You know there’s a significant Puerto Rican population in New York and Florida, right?
An estimated 5.8 million Hispanics of Puerto Rican origin lived in the United States in 2021
337 million in the US.
I wouldn’t call 1.7% spread across 50 states significant.
1.7% is more than enough to flip some swing states. Most swing states.
And two in particular have more than an average number of Puerto Ricans.
So yeah, it matters.
They’re not spread across 50 states, there are large population groups in PA, NY, and FL.
Why even say this? What a useless shitbag.
To them, cruelty is comedy.
Racists can not help themselves. If there’s a MAGAt in your life, I can pretty much guarantee they’ll say some hateful shit at some point…
MAGA maggot lmao
Is that Tony of the show Kill Tony?
Oh god, so stupid
Because Puerto Ricans can’t vote, right ?
Taxation without representation? There should be a thing about that
I am not fan of Tony but I really love Shane Gillis. I loved the Trump and Biden(Shane and Adam) episode. It was the best comedy I’ve seen in quite a while.
Jfc, they’re USA citizens. Ffs.
Are they? Are they really? Puerto Rico still isn’t allowed to be it’s own state
Downvoters somehow missing the point where Puerto Ricans are basically treated as second class citizens because of where they live. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already
What a weird place this instance is.
The explanation for those not in the know.Puerto Ricans are USA citizens they can vote for president but They can not vote on the president from Puerto Rico. They are natural born US citizens can’t vote for president in the place of their birth. This is because of many reasons.
So they have to move and become residents of not Puerto Rico, but a different state, to vote for president.
So they do not have the same rights as other US citizens because of where they live. This is unique in the united states.
I mean, it’s not because they’re Puerto Rican, it’s because they live in Puerto Rico. Someone from Iowa who moved to Puerto Rico would also not get a vote.
This is because our system allocates votes to land, not people.
US citizens don’t get to vote for president. They get to vote for who their place of residence votes for.Up until the 60s, people in DC also didn’t get a vote, because by default only states get a vote, and it’s explicitly not a state.
What a weird place this instance is.
implying that there are instances that aren’t like this
This was like 4th grade shit for me my man.
Are they? Are they really?
Yes they really are. They are U.S. citizens who are disenfranchised based on location.
Yeah, maybe it wasn’t entirely clear there but I was trying to say that they were treated as second class citizens that can pay taxes but can’t vote becit of where they live
You do know that has nothing to do with being of Puerto Rican ethnicity, right? It has to do with living on Puerto Rico. You can be a citizen of Indonesian descent who lives on Puerto Rico and you still can’t vote for president. But that person, and all of the other U.S. citizens making up the population of Puerto Rico can just hop on a plane or a boat and come to the continental U.S. (or even Hawaii or Alaska), no passport needed, move there without any immigration issues, and vote in the next presidential election.
It doesn’t matter what your ethnicity is.
You also can’t vote for president if you live on American Samoa or Guam.
They are still U S. citizens, just not citizens of any state. Same thing can happen if you are born in DC or a military base not in a state.
American Samoans are the ones that really get screwed. They are just U S. nationals. All the responsibilities of citizens (including the draft when it exists) but not all of the benefits.
It was kind of my point that they were treated as second class citizens, like Samoans, just because of where they were born. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already
I think maybe the text of your post did not convey that sentiment, particularly given the reliability of Poe’s Law. Perhaps in the future, you might include a visible indicator that you are using satire?
Puerto Rican statehood is more complicated than that. Becoming a state is a contentious issue even amongst Puerto Ricans.
Is it?
I had friends there for a long time, they all basically either wanted the US out or had it be a US state, anything but this in between nothing that they’re in now
Yes it is. There is another referendum on statehood this year, but in 2020, the vote was only marginally higher in favor of it than against.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
A 2019 Gallup poll found 83% of Democrats in the US, but only 35% of Republicans, supported Puerto Rican statehood. A 2020 survey by International Policy Digest found that “The majority of Democrats showed support for statehood for both D.C. (61.8%) and Puerto Rico (69.7%)” while among Republicans, only 26.7% supported D.C. statehood and 34.8% supported Puerto Rican statehood.
That speaks volumes.
“It was just a joke!”
Oh, I don’t get it. Can you explain to me what the joke is? Like, can you put into words why you find that funny?
I don’t understand the joke because everybody knows the trash island (not an island btw, you cannot walk on it) is in the Pacific Ocean, and Puerto Rico is on the Atlantic Ocean, so it’s inaccurate. I mean… geography is important, otherwise, you could do the joke with any island in the world and as a French, I would of course pick Great Britain.
(ok, that would be funny, then)
I think it’d be subverting expectations. From the start you might think it’s about the Pacific trash island that has collected there, but then it turns the other way and calls Puerto Rico a trash island. A decently funny joke imo, even if rude. I’ve seen the same joke being done about the UK and it did get a proper chuckle out of me.
The main difference is that the UK used to be powerful and did a lot of bad things to a lot of countries around the world. Puerto Rico on the other hand has always been weak so it feels weird for someone in a much more powerful area of the world to pick on them.
Good comedy can punch up, but very rarely works when punching down. Punching down is generally just bullying in disguise.
When punching up it’s funny, punching down is called bullying
I think Anthony Jeselnik sums it up pretty well
Jeselnik is a class act. What’s interesting to me is that the guy in the op, essentially has the same Roast style as Jeselnik. But the way they execute it is key.
I saw some of the ops bits from a comedy central roast, and they were really funny… But when you put him in the context of being at a trump rally wave saying stuff like this it’s like “ohhh, you’re not making subvertive jokes, you’re just a bigot hiding behind ‘comedy’”
It can be meaner but for a stand-up I think it could be fine, if the context is comedy and it didn’t have genuine hatred behind it. In this case it’s clear that it was used as a tool of hatred and not just for making a joke.
I don’t think how places used to be plays any part in how funny insulting them is. Despite being as powerful as the UK when it was last relevant and worse, I think people would still be offended if he said Japan instead. “Always OK to hate colonizers” as someone put it my butt, the internet just really wants to make fun of France and not feel bad about it.
I would say it is fair to make fun of them as long as they themselves still glorify that past.
So you would say it’s fair if he had said “It’s called Japan” instead? They glorify their recent past as well.
I’m sure a lot of folks on SEA would heartily agree, especially Chinese and Koreans.
If by recent past you mean the genocides in their most recent wars with their neighbors then yes, I would say that would qualify them to be made fun of in that way. If you just mean some industrial successes in the 1980s, not so much.
Because it’s full of Mexicans 😂🤣😂
And the president is Hugo Chavez 🇵🇪
But… PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people. I spent one of the best vacations of my life there going all the way around the island (and Culebra!) and it was nothing but gorgeous views, great food, friendly people (it does help to speak Spanish so you understand how friendly they are) and relaxing days.
And that was when the country was getting rocked by earthquakes and had recently been battered by a few climate-change monster hurricanes. Screw people who hate on PR, that place rocks and is more resilient than your average conservative commentator.
But… PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people.
Yes, and ones who don’t vote for these losers. That’s what’s got them butthurt. And the fact that they’re a majority Hispanic place where everyone born there is automatically a U.S. citizen. I’m sure that also makes them seethe.
The main reason PR isn’t a state is because Republicans are scared of how brown people would vote… and to a much greater extent, brown people in general.
Well Puerto Ricans are also of mixed opinions on whether they would even want to be a US state.
Everyone is of mixed opinions about everything, if they don’t want to be a state they can be an independent nation with visa and passport rights.
Yes, and ones who don’t vote for these losers. That’s what’s got them butthurt.
Puerto Ricans don’t vote for anybody. They don’t have representation in Congress, and they have zero electoral votes because they aren’t a state.
So, no, they’re just butthurt because of racism, and Puerto Rico can’t do anything about it because they don’t have any representation.
They do if they move to any of the 50 states.
They can’t vote, so why would they care? Easy targets, no apparent consequences.
Edit: /s
Except for the millions of Puerto Ricans that live in the Continental US.
Yeah I’m on board, I was attempting some mild satire.
If they don’t live in Pennsylvania, Arizona or Nevada, they also don’t count.
The conservative ones will just ignore this like always.
Puerto Ricans can and do move and there’s large numbers of them in swing states. There’s 450 thousand just in Pennsylvania
EDIT: also doesn’t help that he also said
“These Latinos, they love making babies, too. Just know that they do,” Hinchcliffe said, setting up his joke: “There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They c-- inside, just like they did to our country."
Yeah, I was being mildly satirical. Insulting any people group seems like it should be a losing move. I wish it were.
Why the /s?
That’s literally the point. Easy target, plus they’re brown people i/e “Not Real Americans”
Bone stock Republican shit.
“We’re The Real Americans!” while flying the confederate flag.
Completely without irony. Absolutely destitute of self reflection.
I guess in this case the /s is for satire.
You couldn’t invent a band of chucklefucks more capable at torpedoing a presidential campaign…and yet here we are, tied, with apparently no ability to sway any voters away from Trump. It’s so demoralizing.
They’re just bullies.
502 Bad Gateway…
Tony Hinchcliffe is not funny. Watched his podcast for a while then totally abandoned it because I realized I wasn’t laughing during most episodes. It’s mostly seasoned comics taking cheap shots at amateurs and then saying some racist shit while they all laugh and no one in the audience does. His nasally voice is annoying as fuck and hitching his wagon to the trump train seems pretty on brand for that fuckwit. His comedy brand caters to the same people who really like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones, both regulars on the podcast. Shocking I know.
He’s auditioning for a job with Shaprio’s outfit, or some other similar conservative shitpile. It’s not a coincidence that 99% of Right Wing grifters are failures in the entertainment business. Failed actors, comedians, screenwriters, musicians. They’re all narcissists, and more than a little psychopathic. They all think cruelty = comedy. They’re shitty human beings who should be ostracized.
