I’m pulling for Monday. Friday’s already mostly a write-off.
i will probably die of old age by the time we get a 4 day work week (im early 20s)
There’s a lot of optimism in this thread, so if I may imagine Sophie kicking the dust instead of choosing…
Assuming such a thing did happen it’d only happen for a subset of the population, which would then be divided such that one group gets Monday and the other gets Friday while service workers get two more nights of labor.
It makes no difference. With Mondays off, Tuesday becomes the new Monday. Fridays off means Thursday starts feeling like Friday.
Part of me thinks Wednesday. I wouldn’t be surprised to see flex schedules more common in a 4 day work week world
SILENCE, PEASANT!
You will now work Saturday as well!
I used to like to work Saturday at my old job. It was overtime pay. Then my provincial government helped corporations and made it so that overtime didn’t start until 48 hours a week, killing the incentive to work Saturdays.
Open for business? More like open for exploit, nepotism and cronyism, amirite?
Once you all agree on a day, let me know and I’ll take the other one. No queues anywhere!
Neither. I’d remove Wednesdays.
Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.
More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It’s fantastic.
Judging from the other comments it’s not for everyone, but personally I love my Wednesdays off. For me it’s mostly about dealing with accumulated fatigue due to a health condition though, and I definitely agree about the errands. When I have lots of medical appointments they’re so easy to schedule lol
Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can’t do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I’d rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.
If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.
Fuck that I’ve done schedules like that before . . I’d much rather just take 3 days in a row. Able to rest so much more. Obviously personal preference though!
Can we do half-days? I would like to take Wednesday afternoon off as well as Friday afternoon. Longer weekend with a little break in the week.
I second this, but only for work from home folks.
4-days-of-work week doesn’t have to be full on-site. I would also like to work from home those mornings and Monday. This way, I’m at the office only twice a week and I never do two days of commute consecutively.
Their point was that working onsite half a day is shit. No one likes commuting to work.
I’m lucky to have been able to experiment a bit with this as my work is flexible and I’m in a pretty good bargaining position. I also do a fair bit of unpaid work out of hours.
Having either Friday or Monday I’ve found to be little different. Having alternating Fridays and Mondays is pretty awesome, 4 days on, 2 off, 4 on, 4 off.
There’s a lot to be said for a mid week day off too. I’m looking at moving to a new employer and hoping to go negotiate a 3 day week, maybe Mon-Tues-Thur for example which will be heaven if I can pull it off.
I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.
I love using Wednesdays to clear leave (I know, not the best day in terms of utility for holidays and stuff) as you essentially create a new Friday. Work is so much more bearable.
What’s clearing leave? Is that an American concept?
Sounds like a military thing? Not a normal US civilian worker phrase.
Yes, paid time off requests or advanced request to use leave (doctor appointment, or other) is typical for any planned absenced in the US.
holy shit you barbarians.
It’s the smartest option.
This is the way
Super optimistic title there lol
I’m with Cowbee. I don’t see this happening outside of a few mom and pop places that decide to do it on their own until “government” forces the change. Just look at the 3 letter jackasses freaking out about WFH.
I was looking for fully remote jobs recently. All the local jobs are back to 3 days in office. One of the recruiters said something like “our employees are happy to go into the office three days a week” and my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.
“Happy”
It felt more like a threat. Like “if you’re not the type of person to enjoy that then look somewhere else”
Proper read…
People who think this is happening haven’t learned who owns them. A lot of learning to do.
Id rather kill Wednesday.
That’s effectively what I had as an undergrad and it was lovely. Wednesdays were (mostly) reserved for labs, so if you weren’t taking chemistry or another class with a lab, you had Wednesdays to sleep in. I rather miss that.
I am self employed and actually do that whenever possible (which is a rare occurrence these days,but I managed to do it for six month once). It sounds counterintuitive to do so, but it’s actually a fairly nice concept. You work for two days, which is not that long and offers you enough chance to really work “all in”. Then you sleep in in Wednesday and do most of the weekly chores - all that shit you would normally do half of your Saturday. And then you do another two days, already approaching a full weekend - which is far less likely to be interrupted by these lousy chores you normally need to do. And if some things remain,you are not having four but two work days in your bones - which makes them easier and usually faster to put behind you.
Can I ask what you do? I need to get a job and I’m dreading it after being out of the work force for a bit. Id much rather be my own boss.
I am a CEO/founder of a small healthcare consulting company.
I’d be so disappointed by this.
Every time I take a day off midweek, it feels like doubling the number of weeks in the week, rather than reducing the number of days.
I’ve found it precisely the opposite: Monday is like a Thursday (so experientially two Thursdays and two Fridays) with a free day to schedule doctor’s appointments, car fixes, and all the other little things you’d normally have to take PTO for but now do not
Wait, so you get a 4 day week but everyone else has to do 5 days so you can go to your appointments?
No. It’s not like businesses that are open 7 days a week require all of their employees to work every one of those days
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When I worked 32 hours at my first job I took out the Wednesday. It’s a great rhythm to get into, two days of work and a day or two in between.
The 4 day work week likely won’t be established as the standard until Socialism is achieved and the bourgeoisie overthrown, but when that happens it will depend on the job and sector, likely working with different shifts to maintain 24/7 production but with lower workload. Probably a move to a 30 hour work-week, like what PSL suggests.
Don’t be so cynical!
The 4 day work week could be established under capitalism so it’s easier to have two fulltime jobs. 💀
I hate that you’re right…
But working multiple jobs is cheating on your employer
Nah we’ll move to a three day work week but America will require you to work a minimum of 48 hours to qualify as full time.
“So, you’re the lead back-end engineer, the HR and the floor cleaner for 10$ an hour? Good, now go back to your cage, wagie.” 👴🏻
Alternating Mondays and Fridays. This gets you alternating two day weekends and 4 day weekends
This is a cool idea that I didn’t consider.