Doesn’t that prove they weren’t around in 1199?

There’s some more on Nobby here: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520252/who-is-nobby-clark-a-brief-history-of-invercargill-s-controversial-mayor

He sounds like an all around top bloke.

Huh, is there some drama I missed?

I’m telling you, the boats are coordinating an uprising.

Of all the photos of seen from the year 1199, I’ve never seen a Papa Johns. I suspect they weren’t around back then.

Was it earlier this year the two ferries hit the dock in Wellington? We might expect a ferry uprising soon, they don’t seem very happy.

You posted it to NZ Off Topic, which may have been accidental. But from what I can see it hasn’t been posted in [email protected] until now.

(Edit to add link to the other post which has more discussion in case people want to check it out: https://lemmy.nz/post/11586877)

Haha who put the project manager in charge 😆

Yeah my original comment did a terrible job of communicating my point 😆

Yeah sorry, poor wording. What I meant was companies only get investigated when they are negligent or breaking a law, and only if they get charged do we get information about it.

Government departments will do internal investigations and then the results are accessible under the Official Information Act, regardless of outcome, so we tend to get more info if it’s government.

But on thinking about it, Transpower are probably keen to give people an explanation if it was some freak accident to protect their reputation, so we may find out anyway.

Sorry I should have been more careful with my words. The government does investigations into itself all the time, and because of the Official Information Act they results generally get made public, even if they was no issue found.

But for a company, the rules are different. If there is some legal action to be taken, then that happens whether it’s SOE or company, but if it wasn’t negligent then we don’t have any path to get info from the internal investigation.

I wonder if we will ever know, or because they are a SOE they may fall outside the power of anyone to investigate them.

I agree completely. I am not trying to argue that everyone can or should go out and buy an EV.

I was specifically addressing the points that seemed to be claiming EVs are not the right direction for cars or engines to be advancing towarda, by pointing out that the barriers aren’t blocking all paths.

Yeah, that’s a good guess. I presume they do regular inspections, so it would be interesting to know how this got missed.

My point is that we should be focused on the outcomes we want. It isn’t really important that fossil fuels are a lot more energy dense if the electric cars can travel twice as far. They can’t, but I’d be willing to bet we will get to that point with fossil fuels still being more energy dense.

But also as I mentioned in the comment you relied to, Nio have a vast network of battery swap stations where you can get a full charge in a couple of minutes, the same as filling up at a gas station.

The price of EVs are a problem, and not the only problem, but my point was that the specific things mentioned don’t stop us having better EVs than ICEs, because we will get the same outcome in a different way.

I’ve never seen an entire tower fall over like that, that’s kinda terrifying.

Me neither! I wonder what caused it. Looks like maybe some bolts came off the feet? Since normally there would be huge concrete pads that they are connected to.

Hey mate I’m just here for some friendly discussion, I’m not here to argue until I’m blue in the face.

There is a difference between your above points and the original claim.

Fuel density doesn’t matter, what matters is how far you can drive on a charge.

Charge time doesn’t matter if you can swap a battery in 3 minutes instead of waiting to charge.

For your new point of rare earth materials, this isn’t related to the original energy density or charge time points, but high density batteries that don’t use rare earth metals already exist, the problem is cost. That will change over time.

Also you’re ignoring that fossil fuels are also dug out of the ground.

They mention in the article that it’s about $10 a kg, and you need a lot of wire to get a kg. And there are groups of people splitting the profits.

Although own an electric car, I believe range is still an issue. I was specifically addressing fuel density and charging time. EVs have their issues, but I believe they will be solved over time even though they are unlikely to beat an ICE in fuel density or charge rate for a long time. But I don’t think those things are actually important.

Are those two things actually important?

Electric motors are a lot more efficient, and battery technology is quickly approaching the place where you can get the same range with an electric motor as with an ICE.

As for refuel rate, I spend no time waiting for my car to charge because it charges at home while I’m sleeping, so the refuel rate doesn’t matter.

Plus the technology to battery swap is well in use for electric vehicles (see Nio, who have thousands of battery swap stations in China and some in Europe too). 3 mins and you have a full battery.