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  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    154·
    2 months ago

    The tens of thousands of civilians that Israel has killed in Gaza are just fine with you, then?

    • Marin_Rider
      26·
      2 months ago

      whataboutism. civilian deaths anywhere are tragic

    • Kaboom@reddthat.com
      521·
      2 months ago

      Here’s what’s going to happen, I’m going to ask for source, you’ll probably grab something from Gaza officials, and I’d point out that Gaza officials are just Hamas, and it’s not credible. In the end, we’d both waste our time.

      Do you really want to bother?

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        141·
        2 months ago

        https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-palestinians-statistics-40000-7ebec13101f6d08fe10cedbf5e172dde

        I’m someone else and I’m going to do it anyway. We can all see the hospitals and schools being bombed, the bodies in the videos, and even the Israeli government officials saying they don’t give a shit and will do whatever it takes to eradicate everyone in Gaza.

        Yea, I do want to bother, and you can go fuck yourself. That’s what you want, correct? To be a massive tool and when someone rightly tells to sit on a stick and rotate you can act superior because you were “polite” while shitting on an the graves of thousands of children. There ya go, my gift to you, dipshit.

      • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
        101·
        2 months ago

        Strange how even the Israeli intelligence service disagree with you

        By June 19, 2024, 37,396 people had been killed in the Gaza Strip since the attack by Hamas and the Israeli invasion in October, 2023, according to the Gaza Health Ministry, as reported by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. The Ministry’s figures have been contested by the Israeli authorities, although they have been accepted as accurate by Israeli intelligence services, the UN, and WHO. These data are supported by independent analyses, comparing changes in the number of deaths of UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) staff with those reported by the Ministry, which found claims of data fabrication implausible.

        In recent conflicts, such indirect deaths range from three to 15 times the number of direct deaths. Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip. A report from Feb 7, 2024, at the time when the direct death toll was 28 000, estimated that without a ceasefire there would be between 58 260 deaths (without an epidemic or escalation) and 85 750 deaths (if both occurred) by Aug 6, 2024

      • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
        91·
        2 months ago

        If you think Israeli sources would be more trustworthy, sure, we can do that:

        However, Israel’s military has also accepted in briefings that the overall Gaza casualty numbers are broadly reliable.

        In May, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said 14,000 Hamas fighters and 16,000 Palestinian civilians had been killed in the war.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-death-toll-how-many-palestinians-has-israels-campaign-killed-2024-07-25/

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
        51·
        2 months ago

        Uh… You do realize that literally everyone uses Gaza Health Ministry numbers and considers them reliable right?