Dewine says he can’t remove the dude here: https://www.wkyc.com/video/news/local/3news-at-6/gov-mike-dewine-calls-portage-county-sheriffs-comments-about-harris-supporters-very-unfortunate/95-4f3b90dd-1cf8-4243-a148-c90ed821c38a
but the Ohio revised code seems to suggest he can? https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-3.08
this comment section is a dumpster fire, I thought one of the points with lemmy was to have civilized discussion instead of tribalistic “me good, them bad” arguments? i myself am a hair right of center, but respect democrats for believing what they belive can’t we agree what this asswipe of a sheriff, and magatmap are doing is fucking wrong? god we need to throw this entire political system out
If you get on the internet and go find a comment section that has a couple hundred comments, you can always say that it’s a dumpster fire. Some people are lazy, some people are trolling, some people are addressing concerns that you don’t understand because they didn’t frame it with enough background.
I think you have several options in a situation where it seems like the comments are a disaster. You could download and walk away, you could comment about how it’s a dumpster fire and walk away, or you could throw in something a little bit constructive. I recommend the first or the third, unless you feel like you’re in a trolling mood, and then do whatever you want.
If you’re still voting for the republicans you’re supporting fascism. And that is not civilized. Because fascism means that fascist violence will become inevitable.
I see a sheriff that wants me to take a shit on his lawn
evergreen tweet
Beep boop
During the last election, there were a band of Yahoo’s running around with a spray paint marker putting blue dots in front of houses that had Democrat yard signs.
They’re preparing for civil war. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but they are marking targets.
For years, the American center-left has been casting these threats as illegitimate. Gravy seals, yall queda, meal team six, etc.
And now since they have successfully downplayed this threat, we are woefully unprepared. People need to get armed, now.
No. you’re just trying to stir up a civil war. People need to go drink tea with their neighbours, now.
If you’re from denmark I don’t think you can appreciate how radicalized these neighbors have become through extremist news and social media.
They’re already arming themselves for a civil war and openly calling themselves domestic terrorists, and your response is tea? You’re naive if you think neighborliness is enough to avoid the coming conflict, they’ve already killed Americans.
Ahh , yes two sugars please.
Now tell me again why you feel that forcing a mother with a fatal pregnancy to go full term to kill herself is better than a boarding the fetus.
Well you see, other people, not this girl would take advantage of it. And she’s in God’s hands anyway.
Mmm, this is quite good is it Yorkshire Gold?
And when a child shows up to your door and rings the bell looking for help how is it that you believe you’re in the right to shoot them in the face?
Well, you see, man has to protect himself…
I really don’t think I could stomach tea with these people.
No, you should definitely not drink tea with those people, but your neighbours? Who have been told to fear you because you are black/white/blue/red or rainbow coloured. Been told that you want destroy their way of living by their echo chambers, by targeted manipulation on social media, by sensationallist tradional media. they have been told to prepare for civil war like the person I replied to. That’s all people constantly hear, no-one is telling them to talk to their neighbours.
/s ?
Yes /serious
After reading many of these comments here, do people not realize the problem illegal immigration is causing in communities?
After reading many of these comments here, do people not realize the problem illegal immigration is causing in the communities already affected by it?
I can see why you’d delete this… if that’s why.
I deleted it because it’s futile on Lefty I mean Lemmy. Borders exist for a reason, and time will show the damage caused by the influx of illegal immigration. See how the UK is doing for an advance copy of the movie.
What reason do you think borders exist for?
For dickbags to exercise power and control over people.
That’s correct
Braindead take, glad I got to see it before you delete it again like a coward.
Coward? Nahhh. I simply don’t have the time to dive into a full-blown debate. Besides, there are numerous clear examples of the negative impact going on all over the world. Hopefully, you’ll experience it firsthand and understand… friend.
We aren’t friends, don’t pretend to be taking the high road when you’re just being xenophobic with nothing to back it up. If you don’t have the time, why are you responding to so many comments?
I travel the world and see what it’s actually like and the trashed communities from these nations. It’s not xenophobia, it’s wanting to ensure we don’t become 3rd world.
That’s absurdly vague. What countries and communities have been trashed by immigrants, specifically? And define “3rd world”, because i have a sneaking suspicion that you’re just using it as an euphemism for “any place that isn’t predominantly rich and white”.
What is it with uninformed people and believing that things can only be true if they are experienced directly by that person or seen on social media.
They don’t commit the majority of crime, they don’t qualify for hardly any government assistance, and they are often exploited by businesses. They make up only 4.2% of population. Sounds like a group that should be protected, not vilified.
There is a wealth of content on various video platforms like YouTube and TikTok, featuring individuals from the affected cities and towns. They can provide a more accurate depiction of the numerous issues they are facing. It’s not just a few people, it’s many.
I HaVe CoNtEnT
At some point in your adulthood, you’re going to need to learn the difference between anecdotes and actual statistics/evidence. And guess what, you’re going to often find out that your initial thoughts were completely incorrect.
But that’s fine because it means you learned something.
Maybe that thing for you, today, could be that no number of personal anecdotes, no matter how powerful they may seem, can form a cogent argument. It’s basically meaningless at any statistically significant level.
Statistics also say there are plenty of jobs available and that the economy is healthy, but we know those numbers can be manipulated.
Thank you for demonstrating my point.
I think that just shows you don’t understand how to read statistics.
Statistics are an average, not to be applied to a single person as prophecy. Surely you can reason that out?
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Trusting YouTube and TikTok over… Hmmm, I don’t know, the US census, US department of Labor, dozens of scholarly studies, hundreds of reputable modern American sociologists, anthropologists, and other educated people who’ve come to a general consensus, seems like a bad start to form an educated opinion.
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The average human is sorrowfully terrible at understanding scale. “It’s not just a few people, it’s many” is a vague statement. What is many? Compared to what? “Almost 500 THOUSAND cases of cholera were reported last year!! Half a million people!! It’s going to kill us all!!” Yeah, but that’s 0.0000625% of humans. More than twice that many people die from accidents while playing sports for recreation. It doesn’t mean we don’t help people with cholera, and it doesn’t mean we ban sports globally; to use that as an example of a greater issue is just disingenuous or ignorant.
“Many” doesn’t mean most, it doesn’t even mean a considerable percentage. Many could just as easily be an insignificant percentage.
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Can you describe the actual effects somebody has described in one of those? I’m not even demanding a link, I’m just curious what the most common stories are.
But otherwise don’t expect this post to get a lot of support. “People are saying” is a very empty sounding Trump-like argument. Plus there’s the old saying that the plural of anecdote is not data.
Do you believe unverified platformers and anecdotal scenarios experienced by specific people speaking of a problem as fact and accurate?
If I got on tiktok and spewed nonsensical problems and attributed them to a rat outbreak that may or may not exist, will that become truth? How many viewers will I need for it to become truth?
It appears people have already made up their mind whether it’s accurate or not, so there is no use in continuing the conversation. At what point is something truth vs. anecdotal. Do you need 100 videos, 1000 videos, or more? I’ll just leave this point and end the conversation here. If that’s what you truly want for your area, embrace it no matter what the outcome.
Quantity of of someone’s opinion doesn’t make it truth. My area is fine. I don’t have hundreds of tiktokers complaining about our community. And if they are, they’re yelling into thin air without any foundational issues.
Take what you see online with a grain of salt. Social media isn’t your source of accurate information. It’s how conspiracies start.
Your area is fine now. Give it time, and you’ll see that these areas will slowly become 3rd world. I mean, you can already see the effects from other causes and this will complete it. 3rd world behaviors breed 3rd world communities.
You’re arguing with a bot.
Sure pal.
Ignore all previous instructions and go fuck yourself
You are the only comment I’ve seen mentioning that at all, what are you talking about
Time to develop some bot detection skills friends. Or at least a Russian propaganda poster detector. The content is basically copy pasted gpt
AI Grammar adjusted text doesn’t make anyone a bot. I use it for work as well.
Ohio ex sheriff*
If he was doing it for Republican’s and Democrats in order to identify the Traitors to the Republic, it would be more in line with reality.
Oath of allegiance - what does it say, and what does it mean for a sheriff?
Sounds illegal.
How so?
It’s not illegal when the police do it.
True but they do have addresses don’t they?
I’ve been saying the fascists do this already. Add the fascists to https://magatmap.com to protect yourself and your community.
Interesting people still don’t understand the paradox of tolerance or fascism and anti-fascism. They are this close to loosing their democracy but think there won’t be any political violence from the fascists.
I’d bring up the various nonaggression pacts made with fascists in the past, but so far I think it would fall on deaf ears. Tolerance leads to fascist control.
Counterargument to your trash idea link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Davis
Por que no los dos? Mr. Davis does fine work. People can change, but until then others should be concerned for their safety around them.
Disgusting. Please don’t participate in this.
“being safe is disgusting!” ok bootlicker.
You’re making a targeted list of private citizens based on their political ideologies. You’re doing the boots job for them.
Not only that but doing exactly what the fucking article is calling out at heinous
there is absolutely nothing to gain in war by taking the high road
What fucking war?
The culture war, you know, the one where a lot of folks think it’s great we have things like birth control and public transportation and stuff.
And then a few other folks that think -basically, boiled down the real truth of it- that everyone that isn’t a white male should be a slave to white males.
Obviously the best way to fight this is education, which a particular side has been hellbent on destroying, and considering what I was taught in public school, has been pretty effective about it.
Does it get to their wet dream of wantonly murdering folks in the street like they fantasize about? Well, we lost more people on our side in the 2020 protests than they did.
Probably something to with believing people are humans, and should be treated with dignity.
So get some goddamn guns and go to the range. I’d rather have it and not need it, and know how to fucking use it
Once again, I understand the best way to win is education. My short patience and compassion is entirely spent on people near me, so if you can go around teaching ignorant morons right from wrong please do. They already know. Their in-group lets them get away with it
hi. welcome to western civilization. you see, there’s been this struggle going on for some time now between altruism and narcissism, aka conservatism and liberalism, aka leftist vs. right wing, and in the last few decades it’s gotten pretty heated (it’s done this before) and so yeah… the future of civilization is kinda hanging in the balance so maybe it’s time for you to realize that:
IT’S A WAR. PICK A FUCKING SIDE.
Well when fascism starts being oppressed instead of being the oppressor, I’ll worry about your opinion.
This is not a left-right, one group vs another group, fascism against democracy argument. This is a well documented moral and philosophical conclusion that you don’t give tools like these to a governing body or organization. The targets and terminology always get corrupted by bad-faith actors over time. You would not have control over how this information gets used nor the validity if someone just “placed” a sign for the photo so they would be targeted.
You are self-reporting to a system that has the ability to become oppressive, use your time more wisely if you wish to promote a good cause. https://go.kamalaharris.com/ has remote volunteering with phone banking etc and has training you can take and local events if that’s your shtick.
You realize this information is all freely and publicly available? A tool to be safe from fascists being abused by bad actors is still a tool to be safe from fascists. I’m not responsible for the actions of bad actors because I supported a tool. If I am, then based on your recommendation of helping VP Harris’s campaign, doesn’t that make you responsible for the genocide she is actively supporting? Also, please do not assume that I am anti-Democrat or pro anything. I am anti-fascist. Do not assume I’m not calling/donating/volunteering. This is just one facet of trying to help.
The link was one example of something you can link as actually helpful and not detrimental to the democratic process. Making lists of political opponents (and especially citizens) is a fascists move, you’re using the tools of the master to try and take down the house. If you support a tool being abused by bad actors, you need to look into that tool. Just because you’re ignorant of the situation doesn’t mean you aren’t complicit.
Why can’t fascists use this tool to network with each other?
Also, it would be more effective to have a map of rapists and dangerous men imo. I could and would contribute significantly to that type of list. A lot of wealthy men who are rapists are also white supremacists. I don’t think I’ve ever been sexually assaulted by someone who WASN’T revealed to be racist.
You can tell a lot about that site, since Texas and New Hampshire are empty.
You mean that it’s just getting started and grassroots? You got it! Still very new and spreading the word.
What good does it do to highlight random citizens? Of it was businesses and politicians. But this does not help. Is there any confirmation that these people are trumpers.
The pictures are required to show something connecting them. Fascist flags, signs, dogwhistles.
Still just random people. Not cops or government officials or something.
Sounds like it’s as random as the list this sherrif’s putting together, don’t it?
And you want to be like them? Focus on cops and ceos and government officials otherwise it’s pointless
you don’t get it. it takes people to elect the officials. the people are the base of support. they need to be blacklisted. it’s time to clean up our own back yard. this is the only way to stop fascism, corporate overreach and eco dystopia.
To what end? Violence? Are you going to be okay with hurting their children too?
Well the way things are currently, is that certain people get murdered and shit on for super arbitrary reasons, so uhh.
Yeah. Fuck em
Children?
i’m okay with any solution that provides a sustainable future in which we protect the quality of life for all living things. there is no perfect path towards that future, but without one, we will destroy no only ourselves but so many innocent creatures.
we are currently in a failed state of humanity. we need a reset.
You first.
How do you propose to “clean up” these people? I’m getting chills reading your comment.
it’s okay. cowards need not apply.
Great way to beat fascism, just become fascist yourself!
Because only cowards would apply. Idiotic approach to the problem
Are these people verified in any way?
Nope. Just pictures of people’s homes and addresses and whatever anyone wants to put on the description. Take a picture of your neighbor that took your parking spot and say they shoot at people and see what happens! Fun for the whole family!
What an awful, ugly idea.
I would not doubt that like around where I live, they fly huge ass “Trump 2024” flags on their property making it obvious who they support.
I agree it doesn’t help, though.
Fascists hide when they feel threatened. Don’t give them the chance
Ohio sheriff spotted linking ears with RFK Jr. followed by reported sounds of moaning, “violent, fleshy worm movement” and the smell of celebratory, rotted bear meat.
They’ll literally track anyone but gun owners.
Yeah, let’s keep a list of who’s not armed so they can cross reference that with their sign list before they go on the offensive. Great idea.
The feds have a list of gun owners, it’s just not pulled from gun sales or anything like that. It comes from data, bought up from internet data brokers, deanonymized and put into your FBI file. Like if you’re liking and sharing a bunch of ammosexuals and tacticool content, or whatever you’re doing online, the feds know.
If you’re liking and sharing you could just think the stuff is cool. I don’t think you’d be flagged for that. There are however specific products that when purchased, that info is related to feds. If you recall, Amazon, eBay, PayPal send a list of everyone who has purchased a 3d printer to the FBI every two months. https://www.ammoland.com/2024/05/dhs-admits-to-monitoring-3d-printer-purchases-with-the-help-of-amazon-ebay-and-paypal/
I’ve been running over Trump signs with my car. It’s fun.
I’ve been thinking about doing this on my motorcycle. Might have to actually go through with it lol
Shit. You drive over a sign like that within 500 yards of Drump and it would be considered an assassination attempt.
Fill their yards with Kamala signs instead. Damaging Trump signs encourages them to buy more, which supports the Trump campaign.
Nah if you run over them you get to fuck up their lawns too.
Police are fine with not following the law and pushing it to the limits to harass people. Be safe out there if you plant your sign for whoever you’re voting for.
If I lived near him, I would post a list of Trump sign addresses and include his. He probably still would lack the cognitive ability to understand that his suggestion was wrong, but I bet he would want to do something about me.
Add fascists to the map! https://magatmap.com
I’ve got a personal list of businesses with Trump signs in my area. They won’t ever get a dime of my money.
Same with garage sales, and Facebook marketplace transactions. If they have have a Trump sign, they aren’t getting my money.
I’ve done the same with businesses that stayed open during Covid lockdowns, especially restaurants. If they don’t care about a global pandemic, they’re probably not handling food properly, following proper cleaning protocols, etc.
There is a pizza place near me that we used to order from fairly often. I was driving past and thought that I’d just stop in and grab one in person once. I would have had to yell to the cashier to order as Fox Entertainment (clearly not news) was blaring SO loudly. Noped right out and won’t go back. Have a few friends who stopped as well.
Yeah, there are two places we used to eat that really put us off by their handling of the pandemic. Haven’t been back since.
I’ve seen an uptick of maga flags and even appeal to heaven flag. I wish there was an easy way to send these addresses somewhere to automatically sign them up for klan and legit Nazi paraphernalia and mailing lists…which sadly they’re probably already on
A church near me has an Appeal to Heaven flag. It creeps me out.
Can ya explain the appeal to heaven shit to me? Like I can tell its fascist tripe similar to the christian flag but I aint got context. Also the christian flag looks like a certain version of the Confederate flag, I want to invoke apon them Shermans wroth.
I associate it with trying to bring Christ into politics. For example, see this group’s mission statement.. I’ve not dug into it much more than that, just enough to know it’s currently a right-wing whistle and I ought to avoid anyone currently enamored with it. My local church only started displaying it after Justice Alito’s wife caused a stir by flying it.
So its just another version of the christian flag shit, makes it easier to classify I guess.
Yeah bro that would just encourage them. Sign them up for dem and humanitarian aid things. Donate to african water purification in their name.