A spectator was also killed at the rally in Pennsylvania, the Secret Service said. Former President Donald J. Trump said in a post online that he had been “shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part” of his ear.
Are you really just going to go fully into “it was a false flag” within minutes of an attempted assassination?
Staged it as a political stunt? Him getting grazed by a bullet? While he’s already AHEAD?
Jesus. We’re in dark times. Please keep your wits about you. The project to avoid falling into fascism does not get easier by having more people break with reality.
While I dont want to debate if it is a false flag or not. Isn’t the play to yell it is fake from every rooftop? Because regardless of the shooters motive, Trump will blame Biden and the radical left.
You know, the thing Blues have been so desperately shouting on all platforms? The “VOOOOTTTTTTT” that incessantly appears here?
I’m not sure why I’m surprised liberals are just rolling over and waiting to die instead of doing literally anything to increase their chance of winning.
Sounds like 2025 isn’t such an existential threat after all to the DNC.
Yes. Because it’s stage blood and he’s already reported as fine. He’s also desperate and a history of hokey stage acts. He’s an actor turned politician and he knows he can’t win on merit.
If it is actually fake, wait for a while until there’s plenty of evidence about it. Rushing to make such declarations only makes it extremely likely that you fuck up somehow. You can just say that it seems suspicious to you in the meantime.
It’s an argument, not an order. I guess you replied by making it personal, instead of replying with a good counterargument…I guess saying people online are free to speculate is a counterargument…but it does not add much that we don’t already know :)
Yea, it sucks, but I still use it sometimes because lemmy does not have enough movement on some topics…which is funny because when real shit happens reddit borks sooner than lemmy 😁
Lots of people care, and they’re all stupidassed shitsucking idiots who claim everything is fake, a setup, or a false flag. Stupidassed, shitsucking idiots.
And on top of that, people on the other side are claiming that the secret services intentionally left Trump exposed to a terrorist attack. Conspiracies are going to thrive on both sides, that will promote sectarianism, and things will get violent sooner.
Well it is interesting that security was so lax for a controversial character and presidential candidate, who is not above violent rhetoric himself, in a country famed for its trigger happy gun nuts.
So you’re saying that what the other guy did wasn’t ok, but you doing the same thing is the correct response…but the other guy is still in the wrong. But not you.
Are you confused how communication works? People communicate how they receive. So I mimicked their style. If they chose to be respectful and ask or suggest they may get a better approach. But if someone is an insufferable asshole, such as yourself, you get an asshole back.
Have you ever heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Trump used up all his “benefit of the doubt” from me. There is nothing he wouldn’t do. Didn’t he say he could ask his followers to murder someone and they’d do it?* What stops him from getting a rabid fanatic to shoot at him and then shoot himself? I don’t think it’s likely at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised. That so many people on Reddit (which is much more conservative than lemmy) think the same, shows that a LOT of people are cynical with him
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. “It’s, like, incredible.”
Sounds like premeditation. I do not think he cares even slightly about the deaths (he didn’t care about Ashli Babbitt). And also I have long suspected he had something to do with his ex wife’s death. He doesn’t really seem to care about people like others. Eg raping a 12 year old. Raping the aforementioned wife when his hair surgery didn’t turn out. The dude is a monster; these are things psychopaths do. He’d do something like this.
Eta: I’ve seen numerous TT Lives specifically asking if it was staged or not. That many many people IMMEDIATELY suspected this at least shows how much this country trusts him.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNyyJfgh/
If it was a matter of Trump in a rally saying he had been shot at, I’d be right there with you. When all the news media are confirming that there are multiple dead and wounded, people being airlifted, blood in the bleachers, etc., I’m not going to say it was a hoax.
Pssshhhhhh, only because you’re a sane individual capable of critical thinking! C’mon. We’re trying to throw around baseless claims, and conspiracy theories, becsuse we’re all a bunch of russian propaganda agents only here to sew the seeds of chaos with the intents of crippling other nations!
You’re not going crazy, Aurther, you’re going sane in a crazy world! Some people were destined for greater things! You’re one of those people. Aurther, you can’t hide from it. You’ve got to hug it! HUG YOUR DESTINY AURTHER!!!
Yeah as info is being released I am thinking it is probably authentic. I still think he’d kill his own people to win the election though, the bodies don’t mean anything - except that there were live bullets fired and i don’t think he’d be okay with that around his precious self. However, most of his family were NOT at this rally.
Yeah I can’t get past that, Trump is a certified coward. Maybe he was dissociative afterwards? The way he jumps and grabs his ear seems authentic but who knows
Every day this country is heading towards a fucking civil war
This is what the right wants. That’s why they staged it as a publicity stunt. He has the same fist pump and everything.
https://youtu.be/jkghtyxZ6rc?si=VhWUqWJuxiopFU6g
Are you really just going to go fully into “it was a false flag” within minutes of an attempted assassination?
Staged it as a political stunt? Him getting grazed by a bullet? While he’s already AHEAD?
Jesus. We’re in dark times. Please keep your wits about you. The project to avoid falling into fascism does not get easier by having more people break with reality.
Thank you. The number of people insisting that it’s fake is insane. There are reports that the shooter and an audience member are dead.
While I dont want to debate if it is a false flag or not. Isn’t the play to yell it is fake from every rooftop? Because regardless of the shooters motive, Trump will blame Biden and the radical left.
With all due respect… Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
They’re talking about how to win an election.
You know, the thing Blues have been so desperately shouting on all platforms? The “VOOOOTTTTTTT” that incessantly appears here?
I’m not sure why I’m surprised liberals are just rolling over and waiting to die instead of doing literally anything to increase their chance of winning.
Sounds like 2025 isn’t such an existential threat after all to the DNC.
Yes. Because it’s stage blood and he’s already reported as fine. He’s also desperate and a history of hokey stage acts. He’s an actor turned politician and he knows he can’t win on merit.
Was the shooter a crisis actor? Did he fake this because he’s planning to rig the election?
Maybe he was one of the kids from Sandy Hook!
…god I can’t stand alex jones. Glad he was put into ruins.
How the fuck would I know? You can’t accept that people know that he’s desperate and did this same shtick at WrestleMania lol
What?!?! He staged something in a staged show? Holy fucking shit now I believe this was a conspiracy
Uh…I don’t know if you’re keeping up on current events, but he was already up 8 points before he was shot.
This sealed the election.
Why would I be commenting on the election when I think he staged a shot? You are making it about the election, not me.
If it is actually fake, wait for a while until there’s plenty of evidence about it. Rushing to make such declarations only makes it extremely likely that you fuck up somehow. You can just say that it seems suspicious to you in the meantime.
It’s the Internet. Who the fuck cares? I’m some random person that thinks it’s fake. Stop telling people how to live their lives and go live your own.
It’s an argument, not an order. I guess you replied by making it personal, instead of replying with a good counterargument…I guess saying people online are free to speculate is a counterargument…but it does not add much that we don’t already know :)
Well I think that is obvious to anyone. I guess I forgot how stupid most people are. Good point.
I didn’t mind it, the conspiracy sub on reddit crashed, lol, but I know it’s like eating junk food :P
Reddit is dead to me. I don’t generally believe in conspiracies anyways. Most are easily explained.
Yea, it sucks, but I still use it sometimes because lemmy does not have enough movement on some topics…which is funny because when real shit happens reddit borks sooner than lemmy 😁
Lots of people care, and they’re all stupidassed shitsucking idiots who claim everything is fake, a setup, or a false flag. Stupidassed, shitsucking idiots.
And on top of that, people on the other side are claiming that the secret services intentionally left Trump exposed to a terrorist attack. Conspiracies are going to thrive on both sides, that will promote sectarianism, and things will get violent sooner.
Well it is interesting that security was so lax for a controversial character and presidential candidate, who is not above violent rhetoric himself, in a country famed for its trigger happy gun nuts.
Well then go call people who do. Because I don’t. I think it’s staged and I’m allowed to. If you don’t like it go and change the world.
Aren’t YOU telling the other guy how to live their life?
Only after he did first. Almost like I’m responding how they chose to communicate.
So you’re saying that what the other guy did wasn’t ok, but you doing the same thing is the correct response…but the other guy is still in the wrong. But not you.
Are you confused how communication works? People communicate how they receive. So I mimicked their style. If they chose to be respectful and ask or suggest they may get a better approach. But if someone is an insufferable asshole, such as yourself, you get an asshole back.
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Removed, civility.
Except the shooter is dead, as is an audience member
Have you ever heard of the Boy Who Cried Wolf? Trump used up all his “benefit of the doubt” from me. There is nothing he wouldn’t do. Didn’t he say he could ask his followers to murder someone and they’d do it?* What stops him from getting a rabid fanatic to shoot at him and then shoot himself? I don’t think it’s likely at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised. That so many people on Reddit (which is much more conservative than lemmy) think the same, shows that a LOT of people are cynical with him
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. “It’s, like, incredible.”
Sounds like premeditation. I do not think he cares even slightly about the deaths (he didn’t care about Ashli Babbitt). And also I have long suspected he had something to do with his ex wife’s death. He doesn’t really seem to care about people like others. Eg raping a 12 year old. Raping the aforementioned wife when his hair surgery didn’t turn out. The dude is a monster; these are things psychopaths do. He’d do something like this.
Eta: I’ve seen numerous TT Lives specifically asking if it was staged or not. That many many people IMMEDIATELY suspected this at least shows how much this country trusts him. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNyyJfgh/
If it was a matter of Trump in a rally saying he had been shot at, I’d be right there with you. When all the news media are confirming that there are multiple dead and wounded, people being airlifted, blood in the bleachers, etc., I’m not going to say it was a hoax.
Pssshhhhhh, only because you’re a sane individual capable of critical thinking! C’mon. We’re trying to throw around baseless claims, and conspiracy theories, becsuse we’re all a bunch of russian propaganda agents only here to sew the seeds of chaos with the intents of crippling other nations!
Oops…I said the quiet part out loud!
I’m not endorsing the “sane” part, but yeah
You’re not going crazy, Aurther, you’re going sane in a crazy world! Some people were destined for greater things! You’re one of those people. Aurther, you can’t hide from it. You’ve got to hug it! HUG YOUR DESTINY AURTHER!!!
…hug it…
Yeah as info is being released I am thinking it is probably authentic. I still think he’d kill his own people to win the election though, the bodies don’t mean anything - except that there were live bullets fired and i don’t think he’d be okay with that around his precious self. However, most of his family were NOT at this rally.
I’m sure they didn’t think of that…
This was a photo op, exactly.
Who fist pumps while being hauled away by USSS? Especially one that’s demonstrated true cowardice over trivial things in the past.
It’s not evidence that this was staged, but it does seem rather like evidence that he had a plan in the event someone tried this.
Yeah I can’t get past that, Trump is a certified coward. Maybe he was dissociative afterwards? The way he jumps and grabs his ear seems authentic but who knows