• alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I’m quite aware there’s some silly laws written by those same billionaire’s lobbies and passed by their politicians.

    Copying something is quite obviously not stealing from someone.

    But again, stealing back some of the wealth the billionaires have stolen from us is morally good. If you’re not stealing from them, you’re stealing from your family to support your family’s further deprivation.

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      It absolutely is stealing. You’re taking something that is not yours, something that someone else owns and charges money for.

      Mental gymnastics.

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        And did you at any point ask yourself why they own these things? Why Netflix the corporate entity owns media it did not produce while stiffing the people that did out of just compensation? Or how that information slightly complicates the otherwise simple nature of property and theft?

        The only mental gymnast here is you bud. The simple fact is, labor creates value, and Netflix has no part in that. I doubt they even put up any of their own capital in producing these shows.

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          Why they own these things? Because they paid for it.

          How are Netflix stiffing people out of compensation? Netflix pays the rights holders for the right to stream the content.

          On your last part you could not be more wrong. Netflix spent over $6 billion in 2021 on original content. Content they created. They pay for the streaming rights to everything that’s on Netflix up front - in 2021 they paid $11 billion to the rights holders of the content in order to stream it on their platform.

          You’re trying to justify theft. You’re the one doing the mental gymnastics.

              • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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                Welp, you’re free to keep giving your hard-earned money to Disney’s shareholders to compensate them for the hard work of owning property and pay for the privilege of watching ads.

                Personally I don’t think I will.

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                  You can assume I give Disney money. You’d be wrong though.

                  So you’re against any and all ownership of intellectual property?

                  Do you also agree with the writers/actors strike by any chance? Because those 2 things don’t go together.

                  • So you’re against any and all ownership of intellectual property?

                    Only in cases where it benefits the working class and hurts the capitalist class. Laws aren’t a moral good, just a means to wield state power. Although under capitalism they’re written for the bourgeoisie, sometimes we can use their tools against them.

                    Do you also agree with the writers/actors strike by any chance? Because those 2 things don’t go together.

                    They do though. Every dollar I give to the studios is another dollar they can use to break the strike or build infrastructure to otherwise lower wages and raise profits.