Israeli officials have threatened a military offensive in Lebanon if there is no negotiated end to push Hezbollah away from the border.
  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    324·
    5 months ago

    Which is exactly what Netanyahu wants. He needs a forever war to maintain war powers so he can keep being a dictator.

  • wheeldawg@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    42·
    5 months ago

    So here’s the plan guys.

    We let Hezbollah and Israel kill each other off, and the citizens start a new government.

    One that we can be friendly with.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    75·
    5 months ago

    If only this could all be stopped by cutting off our weapons to israel supply to escalate these Genocides with.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    911·
    5 months ago

    At least someone is acting rationally about how Israel’s actions could lead to WW3

    Brown said the U.S. continues to talk with Israeli leaders and warn against widening the conflict. He said a key message is “to think about the second order of effect of any type of operation into Lebanon, and how that might play out and how it impacts not just the region, but how it impacts our forces in regions as well.”

    Pentagon officials have said that Austin has also raised concerns about a broader conflict when he spoke to Gallant in a recent phone call.

    “Given the amount of rocket fire we’ve seen going from both sides of the border, we’ve certainly been concerned about that situation, and both publicly and privately have been urging all parties to restore calm along that border, and again, to seek a diplomatic solution,” said Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, last week.

    • small44@lemmy.worldEnglish
      122·
      5 months ago

      They are just afraid that it’s going to have a massive toll on israel. They couldn’t care less about what will happen to non ally countries

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        187·
        5 months ago

        Israel can’t even genocide Gaza on their own…

        If they start a war at the same time, they’ll lose immediately if they don’t drag America into it.

        And Biden has spent 50 years saying that no matter what happens, he’ll never stop or even slow support to Israel.

        Iran is allied with Russia and other local governments in the 4+1 treaty, so trump would likely join against Israel.

        Either way, the US is gonna be involved if it happens, which isn’t a good thing.

        • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          5 months ago

          People like saying Israel can’t genocide Gazans on their own. They need the US help, just because they say that and they’re getting it. Are you sure they’re not just lying about really needing it, and couldn’t use other, lower-tech methods like starvation or napalm to do it if they were forced to? Or even trebuchets if they really, really felt like it?

          It’s a very tiring line. I understand wanting to pressure the US to halt military assistance, but do not think that would magically save Gaza. Biden has to deal with the harsh reality that it would not, because this isn’t a movie, or a peer-peer war where 1000lb bombs are actually genuinely necessary.

          The IDF would take more casualties without 1000lb bombs 155mm artillery shells, definitely. But that’s it. They are human beings capable of adaptation and problem-solving, and could solve the problem of how to accomplish a goal without enough explosives.

          Now, to fight Hezbollah on the other hand, that’s a pretty big army. Probably do need the big bombs for that.

        • nxdefiant@startrek.websiteEnglish
          52·
          5 months ago

          But Biden has slowed weapon shipments to Israel, it’s the only thing he can (legally, not politically) do since the aid is mandated by law and his executive power doesn’t extend to negating laws.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      375·
      5 months ago

      I give a fuck. Anyone who doesn’t want lots of people to die gives a fuck. Just because you don’t give a fuck doesn’t mean you speak for everyone else.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          213·
          5 months ago

          Most of humanity has a thing called ‘empathy,’ wherein they care about others dying.

          Also, I’m not ‘letting a warmonger do whatever he wants.’ I have no power to do anything about any warmongers and I doubt you do either, which is why you’re complaining about it on Lemmy rather than acting. So maybe don’t point fingers.

          Also, I’m quite familiar with the paradox of tolerance, and that has absolutely nothing to do with people other than you caring about a war even if you say they don’t. I care.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              172·
              5 months ago

              Oh i do care about people dieing,

              You literally said that nobody gives a fuck, make up your mind.

              Empathy is a thing that isn’t really provable, you might feel bad when you kill a innocent, bit when someone charges you with a knife and you can shot him, you still do.

              That’s literally what empathy is. Innocence has nothing to do with it.

        • xenomor@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          5 months ago

          In one form or another, this is basically the rationalization that warmongers always use to justify their own awfulness. As an American, I’ve been listening to my own country deploy this gem my entire life.

    • sunzu@kbin.run
      1012·
      5 months ago

      Israel is the main driver of middle eastern problems. It’s existence is an abomination.

      • Guydht@lemmy.worldEnglish
        75·
        5 months ago

        It’s existence is an abomination

        And that, kids, is why we have wars. The moment people with power start saying “yeah Israel should exist but also should a Palestinian state” - that’s when we’ll have peace.

        • sunzu@kbin.run
          86·
          5 months ago

          Israel will need to be redo as Nazi Germany was redo in order for common person support its existence

          The current regime must be held accountable and Israeli people need to repent.

          We can’t enable this shit, just look at Russia…

        • jorp@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          5 months ago

          I’m not sure why you think we need an apartheid colonial ethnostate at all. Nor how you expect having pockets of Palestinian state embedded like oil into water in the region that Israel controls will yield a lasting peace TBH.

          two state solution sounds fair, but nations with border tension and decades of bad blood don’t really get along even when simply bordering one another let alone when you have two disjoint Palestinian territories embedded in a territory that Israelis consider their promised land.

          No state whose identity is ethnically or religiously defined will work in that situation.

          You would need some kind of major cultural shift towards egalitarianism and away from religious and ethnic identity in that region to make that work.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          5 months ago

          We will have peace when israel is gone. It is a Nazi state that refuses peace and exists to expand its Lebensraum.

          As proven by israel refusing peace in the West Bank. There is only one aggressor.