• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      5 months ago

      I give a fuck. Anyone who doesn’t want lots of people to die gives a fuck. Just because you don’t give a fuck doesn’t mean you speak for everyone else.

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          Most of humanity has a thing called ‘empathy,’ wherein they care about others dying.

          Also, I’m not ‘letting a warmonger do whatever he wants.’ I have no power to do anything about any warmongers and I doubt you do either, which is why you’re complaining about it on Lemmy rather than acting. So maybe don’t point fingers.

          Also, I’m quite familiar with the paradox of tolerance, and that has absolutely nothing to do with people other than you caring about a war even if you say they don’t. I care.

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              Oh i do care about people dieing,

              You literally said that nobody gives a fuck, make up your mind.

              Empathy is a thing that isn’t really provable, you might feel bad when you kill a innocent, bit when someone charges you with a knife and you can shot him, you still do.

              That’s literally what empathy is. Innocence has nothing to do with it.

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          In one form or another, this is basically the rationalization that warmongers always use to justify their own awfulness. As an American, I’ve been listening to my own country deploy this gem my entire life.

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      Israel is the main driver of middle eastern problems. It’s existence is an abomination.

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        It’s existence is an abomination

        And that, kids, is why we have wars. The moment people with power start saying “yeah Israel should exist but also should a Palestinian state” - that’s when we’ll have peace.

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          Israel will need to be redo as Nazi Germany was redo in order for common person support its existence

          The current regime must be held accountable and Israeli people need to repent.

          We can’t enable this shit, just look at Russia…

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          I’m not sure why you think we need an apartheid colonial ethnostate at all. Nor how you expect having pockets of Palestinian state embedded like oil into water in the region that Israel controls will yield a lasting peace TBH.

          two state solution sounds fair, but nations with border tension and decades of bad blood don’t really get along even when simply bordering one another let alone when you have two disjoint Palestinian territories embedded in a territory that Israelis consider their promised land.

          No state whose identity is ethnically or religiously defined will work in that situation.

          You would need some kind of major cultural shift towards egalitarianism and away from religious and ethnic identity in that region to make that work.

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          We will have peace when israel is gone. It is a Nazi state that refuses peace and exists to expand its Lebensraum.

          As proven by israel refusing peace in the West Bank. There is only one aggressor.